The "opinons" here should be about what people think would work and would not concerning those systems, but instead it has devolved into petty emotional contests and objections.
Well, unfortunately that tends to happen when the thread's author can't seem to engage in a debate without resorting to personal insults one step removed from "momma so fat" jokes.
I'm sorry, but it's true. Hiver implies it's difficult to act civil when dealing with others, yet the rest of the people on this forum seem to be able to do it. There are various levels of success from one individual to the next, and occasionally people slip, but with Hiver it's predictable and constant (which is why you see /popcorn jokes in the threads he participates in). Posters generally have about one post of slack to disagree with him before he spends multiple paragraphs detailing all the ways they are mentally challenged.
It's immature, it's rude, and it has no place on these forums. The conduct rules are pretty clear, and I'm really not sure why he gets away with breaking them as often as he does. Honestly, it sets a bad precedent for everyone else. Everyone needs to take a moment and imagine what these forums would look like if everyone on them spoke to each other the way Hiver talks down to others. This place would literally be a cesspool.
You can debate who started what for another ten pages, but it's crystal clear who escalated it well beyond what's acceptable.
