Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart

I've read through this thread. Please point out where cromcrom requests that you provide him with an "appropriate short version." Perhaps you got that from another thread. It appears no where in this one.


Godammit, can't you just summary your thoughts?


I stand corrected and I apologize for it. I missed that post as it was a shorter one and the fault lies with me.


Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart

As for your reference to Dragomist's posts, how do you know he did not read your posts? His comments seem completely in line with someone who disagrees with normal mode being too easy, which is exactly what you mentioned in your opening post.

Playing obtuse just makes you look obtuse. You should know that.


I stand by my position that Dragomist read your post and objected to your claim that "currently the game is very, very easy." Is this not appropriate? If it isn't then perhaps calling the current normal mode "very, very easy" is unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Hiver
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I'm not quite sure what to make of the last sentence, specifically "While I'm actually saying the opposite all this time."

Yes, it must be a great mystary.



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Are you suggesting that instead of normal mode being harder, it should in fact be easier? That would appear to be contrary to all of your previous positions.


:lol:

From claiming one false and utterly ridiculous notion as "my actual desire" to claiming even worse idiocy... claim, claim ,claim.

Just because you felt personally slighted because i said that the game is very, very, VERY, VERY EASY.


You've parsed my post here in a way that destroys the original meaning. The section you quoted was a question aimed at a particular thought you had posted. I was unclear as to the meaning of that thought and was hoping for clarification.

I don't see asking for clarification as assuming your "actual desire." Rather, the inquiry was aimed at further understanding your thoughts.

Furthermore, I did not feel "personally slighted that [you] said the game is very, very, VERY, VERY EASY." If I'm coming across that way I apologize. I've only taken the position that to a new player the game could be rather difficult in certain areas.


Originally Posted by Hiver
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Please enlighten me as to where I demand what you should think.

Enlightenment...

Could be achieved only if i could talk to you personally.
Since that is hard to achieve, unfortunately, enlightenment will have to wait for some such opportunity.


Enlighten in this context is asking for you to provide examples where I demand what you should think. It has nothing to do with achieving an arbitrary "enlightenment."

I will eagerly await the opportunity to achieve that "enlightenment" with you.


Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
I merely stated that any game should be designed for a wide audience to be a commercial success.

As any mass market drone would and should. Design for the lowest common denominators.

You must be new to the internets...


Are you in agreement then that the normal difficulty should appeal to a wide audience?

And I fail to see how my newness to the "internets" has anything to do with my concern that the difficulty of the game be designed for a wide audience.


Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
Creating a game that is too difficult for a new player could be detrimental to this goal. I fail to see how this is demanding that you think a certain way.

Yet when i tell you directly, for the moment putting aside the fact that you are intentionally playing obtuse and basically trying to flame me, while pretending to lead a "nice conversation" and being all proper like ...

- that changing the normal mode has nothing to do with what i said since i actually am talking about hard mode specifically -

- you tell me that is not correct and that i actually think: something,... blarrgbbb, blrrghh, bllrbbhh ...

Sorry, thats how most of your sentences look to me dear chap.

Oh right, you tell me i dont really think that but that i actually want to change the normal mode and then you argue about and against that.


I've addressed thoughts that you've included in your posts.

I've also agreed with you that a "proper" hard mode should be implemented. One that is not merely increasing HP, the damage enemies can do, the damage you can do, etc. Is that the part of my posts that appear to be "blarrgbbb, blrrghh, bllrbbhh"? My agreement there is also very, very much on target with the main idea of your original post.

In all of your posts addressed to me you've made no mention of my agreement with you in certain areas. Why is this?


Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
In my latter reply to your post, I mention specifically what the general point of your original post was about. That has not been lost on me.

Then you are intentionally obtuse all this time.
Well, isnt that a surprise?

You mean to tell me that all this is just you being butthurt because someone said that on the normal the game is very, VERY; VERY; VERY EASY?


Again, I fail to see how this becomes an issue of whether I'm offended or not. I've made the argument that for a new player, the game can be rather difficult. Getting your tankiest character nearly one hit KO'd by an archer is not a pleasant experience. Fights can be difficult without being punishingly difficult and or cheesy.

Are you of the mind that a single archer should be able to one hit, or nearly one hit, KO your tankiest character?

Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
Again, I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence. It would appear you're inferring that you're aghast someone would request you defend your position.

Against intentionally idiotic accusations you have simply invented yourself - yes.


Yes, I was making an inference based on what you had posted. Perhaps I should not have done this.

I don't think it was an "idiotic" accusation that I merely invented however. The sentence was unclear and it seemed you were taking the position that people should accept your thoughts without any rebuttal. Am I wrong?


Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart

Nowhere in your opening post do I see you arguing that normal difficulty should be left as is.

mhmm? you dont say?

Gee, well.. maybe it should be made a bit harder? Because right now it is balanced for the likes of you.


What do you mean the game is balanced for the likes of me? It would appear that again, you are assaulting my intelligence. There is no need for that Hiver.


Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart

In fact, you specifically mention that developer time should be spent further balancing and improving normal difficulty, thus implying that it should not be left as is.


Yes, improving the game in its beta stage, the horror.


We are in agreement then, though I do not think it is a horrifying idea.

Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
In addition, your overall tone suggests an overall contempt for normal difficulty and that you would like it to provide a greater challenge.


Ah, you know what i really think from my..."tone"... on the internet. So, you are telepathic!
No, no...that contempt is aimed at you personally Joe.
You think that anyway, because i said that the normal mode is very, very, very, VERY; VERY; VERY EASY... so i might as well.

Rightfully so.


Am I wrong in thinking that you dislike the normal difficulty and think it should be harder? You have surely seemed to express this sentiment.

Additionally, I make no such argument that you have contempt for me personally. Where did you get that idea?

Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
Then it was a sentence that could have, and should have been removed from your opening post as it has no relation to your overall point. Why mention normal difficulty is "very, very easy" if your entire post is to be about your desire for a properly implemented hard mode?


Because someone with quite limited intelligence like you will not tell me what sentences i will use or not.


Again, there is no need to attack me personally Hiver. I was suggesting you could have altered your opening post to make no mention of how easy you find normal difficulty. Rather, you could have tightly focused on what you would like the developers to do in regards to a hard difficulty, and what you would like them to do in the final stretch of development.

Am I wrong to suggest this? I think it would have increased the clarity of your post as well as improved the focus of your post. If it was not intended to be about how easy normal difficulty is, I don't see a reason to mention that.

Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
There is no need to mention you find normal mode "very, very easy."

The game normal mode is very, very, very easy - which makes you feel bad personally.

smile wave hehe woehoe


I've not mentioned that normal difficulty makes me "feel bad personally." Where did you get this idea?

Since you brought it up, I'll address it. Normal difficulty does not make me feel bad personally.


Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
What do you mean there are no folks here? Are you implying that the individuals posting are not people? I'm having trouble comprehending your topic sentence there. Perhaps I'm obtuse. But a few people could qualify as folk.


You know what that means and being actually obtuse doesnt change that. You are not some kind of majority, a large group, or "folks". You are just one pathetic obtuse individual who thinks everyone else fell onto internet from a tree yesterday.
(i know you wont understand that, and thats alright)


I never claimed to be a majority, nor did I claim to be part of a large group. I did mention that a few people could qualify as folk (as in walking into a room and opening with the greeting "hello, folks"). Your claim that "there are no folks here" is very awkward.

Again, you attack me personally. That is unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart

No one doubts you have put forth a lot of time and effort into this game Hiver. No one has said anything of the sort.

That section is not addressing you or assumes anyone doubts anything about that. So dont imply that. Dont think it, dont assume it.
I am merely providing clear background to my proposition so anyone who actually reads it can get a quick sense of where im coming from.


Then I am grateful you've informed me and everyone else of the time you put into the game.

Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
Then why include a description of your merits if you did not assume anyone doubted them?

I just told you why. Right there.

What you assume that i am assuming is just a sign of a deep psychological problems.
Which are very blatant.

merits... :lol:


I do not see how this is a "sign of deep psychological problems." My thought that you assume no one doubts how much effort you've put into the game is a sign of deep psychological problems? That seems to be quite a stretch Hiver.

Originally Posted by Hiver
Originally Posted by JoeBart
I do not know what you mean by this sentence.


Thats... not a surprise.
And its alright. You are not meant to understand everything. Nor is any of your opinions required any further.

They are ... dully noted.


Some of your sentences are unclear, which is why I was unable to understand it. Asking for clarification is wrong?