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This part also seems to answer the question of exactly how many copies of the game come with the CE. At first glance one might assume 3 copies (one on the disc + two extra steam keys). Now it sounds like there are just two steam keys and no copy of the game on disc, one of which you will (apparently) be required to consume to activate the game on Steam.

At this point I'm pretty concerned about how exactly this is all going to play out come launch day. Steam will not allow you to add the same game to your library twice, and yet many of us already have a copy of the game on Steam. I'm worried that many people are going to be stuck with CE keys for Steam that they can't add to their account.


no, it was always meant to contain twice the game and only twice
and why would you like to have twice the game on your steam account?!


Yeah that part makes no sense to me either....why would you want the same game on your library twice? And that second key included in the CE is not even intended for you, it's intended for somebody else people might play the game with like a family member or special friend or something.

What good would having the same game on your library twice do you anyway? You won't download the game any more times because it appears on your library twice and if you need multiple downloads you can do that from it showing on your account once. So what's the logic here because I'm not seeing any.

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Originally Posted by Chaotica
Originally Posted by Gyson

At this point I'm pretty concerned about how exactly this is all going to play out come launch day. Steam will not allow you to add the same game to your library twice, and yet many of us already have a copy of the game on Steam. I'm worried that many people are going to be stuck with CE keys for Steam that they can't add to their account.

no, it was always meant to contain twice the game and only twice
and why would you like to have twice the game on your steam account?!

How to explain this.. it depends on the keys. Often games are sent out with different keys depending on the edition they're paired with (standard versus collector). The correct key unlocks the correct content. For example, without the key that comes in your typical collector edition you wouldn't have the game and digital CE bonuses unlocked.

If that's the route they went (and it is an extremely common route), it can be problematic as Steam doesn't allow players to add the same game to their library twice. And many of us already own the game on Steam.

The alternative is that the collector's edition box comes with three keys (a steam key for you, a steam key for your friend, and a DLC key which unlocks the DLC content. Use of that third key (the DLC key) is something Steam would allow (although right now even that's not working properly with the DLC-pack on Steam for people who already own the game).

Hopefully that clears things up.

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I doubt any of that applies here. The base game will be the same for everyone, and then if you have the CE you get the $10 DLC pack too but nothing about any of this is likely to be different from what anyone else has that just bought the $40 basic game and then purchased the $10 DLC.

But even if the downloads were dubbed under different names like CE game download and standard game download there is still absolutely no reason or purpose for you to have the same game on your account twice. None whatsoever.

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my guess is that every DLC and digital content will be codes to enter on steam so you can unlock them on every version


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Originally Posted by Chaotica
my guess is that every DLC and digital content will be codes to enter on steam so you can unlock them on every version


He still has shown no reason to why he'd want the same game on his account twice.

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Just to clarify: If you're playing Original Sin from the kickstarter early access key; it will be revoked (and thus the game removed from your account) on release. That would allow you to re-enter a CE-version key.

Of course, this isn't the same if you actually *bought* early access on Steam, since then you also bought the game itself.

Most installers of Steam games I know install the game from the disk (saving you the download) though you're perfectly able to just enter the key and download it if you so desire (but why would you in most cases?). Afterwards it would of course download patches. And depending wheter or not the CE DLC is on the disk, DLC.
But the majority of data will come of the disk, lowering your download requirement. Useful for people with slow connections or data limits...

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Just to clarify: If you're playing Original Sin from the kickstarter early access key; it will be revoked (and thus the game removed from your account) on release. That would allow you to re-enter a CE-version key.

Of course, this isn't the same if you actually *bought* early access on Steam, since then you also bought the game itself.

Most installers of Steam games I know install the game from the disk (saving you the download) though you're perfectly able to just enter the key and download it if you so desire (but why would you in most cases?). Afterwards it would of course download patches. And depending wheter or not the CE DLC is on the disk, DLC.
But the majority of data will come of the disk, lowering your download requirement. Useful for people with slow connections or data limits...


There's nothing there that support couldn't fix but beyond that Steam and Larian want the game to sell so I can guarantee you there won't be any issues around "Oh you bought SEA so we won't let buy the CE because it's a different download and you can't have the game twice."

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Originally Posted by Darth_Trethon
Originally Posted by Chaotica
my guess is that every DLC and digital content will be codes to enter on steam so you can unlock them on every version


He still has shown no reason to why he'd want the same game on his account twice.


Who said they want the same game on their account twice?

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Originally Posted by Darth_Trethon

There's nothing there that support couldn't fix but beyond that Steam and Larian want the game to sell so I can guarantee you there won't be any issues around "Oh you bought SEA so we won't let buy the CE because it's a different download."

I get the feeling you have never dealt with Steam's support.

For the record, I can't buy the Digital Collector Edition on Steam because (as far as Steam is concerned) I already own that content because of my Early Access purchase. It will not allow me to add the item to my cart and purchase it for myself (not that I want to, but I tried it as a test). The same holds true for the standalone Source Hunter DLC package, I'm not allowed to purchase it and add it to my account.

I've also had Steam take upwards of 3+ weeks to get back to me on a simple ticket submission with a simple request. And that is, unfortunately, pretty normal for Valve. Right now I have a ticket going with them for the DLC package problem, sitting there after 5 days untouched. I'm not expecting a resolution anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by Gyson
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There's nothing there that support couldn't fix but beyond that Steam and Larian want the game to sell so I can guarantee you there won't be any issues around "Oh you bought SEA so we won't let buy the CE because it's a different download."

I get the feeling you have never dealt with Steam's support.

For the record, I can't buy the Digital Collector Edition on Steam because (as far as Steam is concerned) I already own that content because of my Early Access purchase. It will not allow me to add the item to my cart and purchase it for myself (not that I want to, but I tried it as a test). The same holds true for the standalone Source Hunter DLC package, I'm not allowed to purchase it and add it to my account.

I've also had Steam take upwards of 3+ weeks to get back to me on a simple ticket submission with a simple request. And that is, unfortunately, pretty normal for Valve.


Oh wow, they suck worse than I thought. Contact Larian support and hopefully they can deal with Steam from their end....one would hope. Either way there are many other reasons I don't tough steam even for betas and such. You'd think that a basic business practice would be don't prevent your customers from buying something they want to buy, but I guess that makes too much sense for Steam to comprehend.

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I don't like Steam, I think they screw up too many basic things and apparently their support team sucks too, which is surprising and I understand even less why they're so popular and why so many people buy into the idea of Steam being a great game platform.

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Well even though I already own DOS on Steam I just purchased the CE.
I would have hated myself if I missed out on it laugh

I actually was shocked that I hadnt already missed out on it.
I figured it would have sold out very quickly.


Whay does this picture different than the one they show on the website ?

http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Divinity-Original-Sin.jpg?57efa4

Did they add/remove items ?
Seems like the Dice are missing on Larians Store page picture.

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Originally Posted by Neversober
Well even though I already own DOS on Steam I just purchased the CE.
I would have hated myself if I missed out on it laugh

I actually was shocked that I hadnt already missed out on it.
I figured it would have sold out very quickly.


Whay does this picture different than the one they show on the website ?

http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Divinity-Original-Sin.jpg?57efa4

Did they add/remove items ?
Seems like the Dice are missing on Larians Store page picture.


The dice are gone for good sadly. The manufacturer who was supposed to make the dice came back saying they wouldn't be able to deliver the dice until July so it was either delay the game for at least a month or forget the dice. Everything else is still in though.

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Originally Posted by Darth_Trethon
Originally Posted by Raze

There will be a game disk in the CE. Many retail games with Steam codes are the Steam version, though; I don't know if that is the case for D:OS, or not.


I don't imagine it is, I'd be genuinely surprised if they delivered a game disc where the install won't work without a code redemption.


One word: Skyrim.

They just provide a disc so you don't have to download all the data.


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Originally Posted by theBlackDragon
Originally Posted by Darth_Trethon
Originally Posted by Raze

There will be a game disk in the CE. Many retail games with Steam codes are the Steam version, though; I don't know if that is the case for D:OS, or not.


I don't imagine it is, I'd be genuinely surprised if they delivered a game disc where the install won't work without a code redemption.


One word: Skyrim.

They just provide a disc so you don't have to download all the data.


It's not just them, plenty of publishers have DRM for on disc games. My comment was about Larian, not the industry or any implied evaluation of a norm.

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