Originally Posted by daft73
Sorry, life happens. As far a direct connection, I can't recall a direct connection. It was shown to us 2nd graders (some 35yrs ago), we were all born out of sin(sex), and therefore had to be baptized.


Not to all 'Sunday School' on the topic, but obviously, whoever taught that was woefully uneducated in the Bible. Sex is not sinful, unless done outside of marriage (fornication/adultery/sodomy). We are all born out of sin - and we do all need to be baptized - but it's passed down from us men, because of the failure of Adam. It has nothing to do with sex, and everything to do with the sinful nature of Adam we've inherited. This is the reason Jesus was born without sin, because he had no earthly father to pass sin onto him.

Originally Posted by daft73
Where does this idea spout from, interesting concept..but I don't quite understand the connection. Having Original Sin is not god-like, but very mortal. It is one, of many, things that separates us from being gods(according to religious interpretation.)

From wiki
' Adam is recognized by some as having brought death into the world by eating the forbidden fruit. Because of his sin, his descendants will live a mortal life, which will end in death of their bodies'

So it seems to be the opposite, so one could say because we are not god-like, we must work hand-in-hand(ie the game cover) to overcome our defects as mortals.


The concept of being "God-like" is that they desired to know the difference between good and evil. Prior to eating the fruit, they did not know what evil was. Afterwards, their eyes were opened. Also, there's no reason to believe they were immortal in the garden of Eden, as God explicitly expelled them so that they wouldn't eat from the tree of life, and become immortal.

Okay, church lesson is over for today. You may now proceed to your regularly scheduled discussion. smile

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