I blame Elwyn for this thread.
DevilDog was carrying a very good conversation with himself and in the end (post 3) saw the light of day.
Admittedly, I started typing my reply when there was just one opening post in this thread
I probably should have deleted my post after I saw the other two - but then I had already put a few minutes and so much effort into typing it that I was really loathe to do it
Edit: But indeed, I take all the blame for keeping this thread alive
