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Ohh NOOOOOO, i did all the stuff i described but i left the vent running on lowest rpm... RIGHT!
BECAUSE THATS TOO COMPLICATED TOP UNDERSTAND!

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Its running at max speed.





No shit? Only in D:OS? Maybe you are a tool? Ever think about that?




Maybe there is something wrong with your head instead? How about you try some benchmarking software for that? eh?



Im so happy for you. But my card get to 110 only when doing combat in D:OS.

mkay?


Maybe the game isnt optimized the best way? I know that will make you cry because you love it so much and you have to defend it from EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING. But its just true.

Hiver, if you want people to help you, don't attack those who try.

If I recall correctly and perhaps I'm not. LordCrash actually had performance issues that were either corrected by a patch or a tweak he did. So he actually has been in the same boat as you. If I'm wrong with LordCrash, others have been in that situation and have worked it out, at least temporarily.

If one is over-heating, in the meantime, the best thing this game has for you is the FPS slider, if you are at least getting good frames you can cool your GPU some by lowering the mx FPS.

If nothing works for you, then we hope it is addressed soon, sucks being that guy with that game.

@Hiver
Did I say something wrong that caused your reaction? It wasn't my intention to make fun of you or whatever. And like Horrorscope said, I have some performance issues (or made some observations) as well so there is no need for hard feelings or ad hominem attacks/insults. If you think my post don't help you at all please just ignore them instead.

What I wanted to say is that it is technically impossible that a GPU can be loaded with more than 100%. Either it's at 100% load or not. That's the reason why I suggested benchmarking you card with MSI Kombustor because only very few games keep your GPU at full load all the time. Most have some fluctuations depending on the scene but in D:OS there seem to be spots which steadily cause a GPU load of 95% or more. With MSI Kombustor you could test that in a controlled environment. If you've already done that, I'm running out of advice, sry.

Oh yes they can. Unless they have MSI Afterburner's statistics screen up all the time to display temperatures (and check it after each game, or use a screen overlay or Logitech G13's LCD display to show temperatures constantly), how can people know what temperatures their system reaches normally? In such a case, it's only when they hit a problem that these things will be checked.
Sorry to hear things didn't work out, but air cooling can be a tricky thing to get right. I found I had to have two sets of fans in push-pull configuration with my GPUs (2xNvidia 460GTX originally, now 2x580GTX), one inside the case pressed up against the GPUs blowing towards the rear, and a second set outside the case blowing the same way (effectively sucking hot air out).

During my experiments I found that having a fan on the side of the case over the GPUs (sucking cool air in) was quite effective but I wanted to keep the case sides clear - however that may be worth considering for anyone wanting to improve GPU ventilation without going the water-cooling route.Unigine Heaven is pretty demanding, but not the most punishing benchmark out there. 3DMark2006's batch triangle test (those using higher numbers of triangles) can result in higher power usage (and slightly higher temps) but you need the Pro version to run that part multiple times for stress testing.

However the most demanding game I have come across is Hard Reset (a well-executed first-person shooter with great graphics but a dodgy plot). That can push my GPUs to 80 deg C while Unigine Heaven, 3DMark, etc only manage 75 deg C (and D:OS gets to 70 deg C). Sadly, while it has a demanding benchmark, it can't be looped automatically so you have to keep re-running it to stress test. Anyone complaining about D:OS overheating their cards might want to give it a try.

To anyone complaining about D:OS not being "optimized" - get over it. It's just been released and no game is fully optimised or bug-free on release. If a smooth experience is your priority, wait a month or two for Larian to fix all the reported issues.

As was discussed at length earlier in this thread, all overheating problems are the fault of your hardware. If a certain title is giving you heating problems, it's because it's the only title utilizing most (or all) of your GPU/CPU. You will see the exact same results running any stress tests.

So no, it's not just true. Your video card is dying, or faulty, if it is unable to run at 100% usage without catching fire. That is the only thing that is true.

Telling someone like me, after i just described what i did and said i know a lot about these things... - that i may have left my vent running on low is pretty godamn insulting because it assumes im completely ignorant and stupid.

Its not any kind of help.
Its careless, ignorant, arrogant and worse - fueled by desire to "defend the game" - which is a complete nonsense by itself.

I know you didnt mean it. But that doesnt make it any less insulting.
If you really want to know.



Soooo? Am i saying my card is running at more then 100% maybe? IS that what youre thinking?

Dont we know that cards are running at 100% or close ALREADY - from the mere fact that my card and those of several other people are extremely overheating? Ofcourse they are bloody running at 100%!! or very close to it!!

I can play Skyrim or frigging Crysis 2 on that card, even Witcher 2 and thats badly optimized and it never goes above 80 C max.




And what the hell is that going to tell me? That my card heats up under extreme load?
I KNOW THAT ALREADY!

The problems is that OS combat - specifically, - creates such an extreme load!!

And i never asked for your advice. You cant help me. Who are you anyway? Just another player... I didnt write that for you.




:lol: Another white knight defending the developers and the game... for no reason at all.

Exactly how do you know what other people are using and how they monitor their hardware - exactly?

btw, the CPUID hardware monitor im using, for example, notes and records the highest and lowest temperatures, so you really dont need to see it in real time all the time. And its really easy to tab out of the game and check it whenever i want. Before and after combat, for example.

mkay?

besides, the same temps are displayed in my card drivers too.

besides, nobody asked you a thing.




Why? Because you said so?

:lol:

ffs...



Oh,that hit the spot hasnt it? Who gives a damn about what you an ignorant defender of the holy game (which is some delusion in your head) discussed and what empty ignorant unsupported statements you made to make yourself feel better?

I mean seriously... i never asked you a thing.
Im not talking to you or requiring your high and mighty opinions.
I made a post for devs to see and so they can take a look and maybe figure out something.

Thats all.

I really dont need you geniuses coming in all fueled by desire to protect your emotional engagement and tell me whatever.



GREAT MAN! Im so glad you declared that! You saved the GAME MAN!!!

:lol:

You're still rude but you also still don't get it:

Even if your card runs for 5 hours at constant 100% it shouldn't be hotter than 80-90%. The game could be optimized better and I agree that there is often no good reason for the constant high load on the CPU and CPU but that doesn't change the fact that your GPU should be able to work without any bigger problem even at constant 100% load. If that's not the case then your GPU or case cooling system is badly designed, but it's not Larian's fault that your card catches fire.

Like I said before: test your card with MSI Kombustor. Check if the card can run for several hours at maximum load without overheating in a controlled benchmark. Performance benchmarks like Uniengine Heaven are not suited for that since they only stress the GPU for a very short time which will never cause any severe temperature situation...


Replying to me in a rude and personal way without being able to actually listen what the other person is saying is at least equally insulting than what you accuse me of. Anyway, I'm done here. You obviously just want to rant. Write a blog or an email to Larian instead of posting a thread that pretends like you really ask the community for help because that's not any acceptable way to deal with responses. Bye.

There's nothing to figure out. Go run Kombustor, or Heaven, or any other stress test for 10 minutes and you'll see the same temps. Being an indignant child on forums won't fix your card.

So glad to hear that. So no-one need bother spending a minute more of their time dealing with your issues, which now seem to be more liveware than hard/software related. Bye bye.

Mods please delete this topic

Are you people incompetent of understanding "i am not asking you a thing" and "i wasnt talking to you at all"?

Do you need a translation?




whhhat? :lol:

A friend of mine found out that some pills really helped with his issues. Maybe you should try some.

Why do you always get into eFights with people? Don't you see that? Do you see that others in almost all other cases here don't get caught up in these?

What FPS are you getting? This is a good start.

If you are getting high FPS, use the slider and limit them for the time being. That will reduce the stress to your GPU and then keep an eye on patch notes.

I do get your point, why doesn't Skyrim overheat my GPU and why does D:OS? We can't answer that other than their GPU routines tax your GPU more. However the point of at least a few here is, whatever the game does throw at your GPU, your GPU technically should be able to handle it if it is functioning properly and you are in a properly conditioned room. Otherwise it is dirty, not getting enough cooling or dying.

This isn't the only game that uses 100% of my GPU and I can tell, oh boy does heat pour out of my box even at just 70c. In many cases I can limit FPS to help it out, some games purposely put limiters in them because of this possibility.

There isn't a rule because this game looks so-so it runs cool and because this looks best ever it runs hot. Now ideally it would make sense, but I'd say get used to that never being the case. It is engine by engine, which doesn't have to marry up with knowing generally the temp of your gpu based on how well the game looks on your screen.

Please don't attack me, my mom is visiting.

There's a Notify button below each post that will let you message the mods about it.

Please don't - this is starting to get entertaining.

You mentioned you had the same issues of other with over-heating. We lend out a hand even people like you. And then you turn it around and say were are incompetent and you weren't even asking or talking to us. You are right, you didn't ask, but your comments setup up for people to just generally reach out to see if they could help. And we got pooped all over.

Starting to feel like CromCrom's post over at the Steam forums.

Arent you a little laughable butthurt little crybaby you... imagine, someone doesnt care about your ignorant uninformed opinions on the internet. Doh, you better report that to the moderators.

Right but there is a difference between disagreeing respectfully vs verbally attacking and harassing people in which you have done all throughout beta and continue to this day. You break the terms all the time and I'm getting a little sick it isn't being addressed. You make me a worse off poster as well.

We are allowed to be confused and mistaken if we keep our cool and don't insult others. You right or wrong, if we make a mistake... straight to insults. Are you Don fricking Rinkles? If so, I take it back, I'd love to be undressed by Don.

Hey, Hiver - here's the definitive fix for ya.

• Take a break, eat several tins of baked beans;
• Remove side of PC case;
• Squat down, point rear at GPU and let out a massive fart;
• If your card is too hot, the methane will ignite, wrecking the card and giving you the perfect excuse to replace it for a better one! YOU WIN!
• If your card isn't too hot, no ignition but the extra airflow will solve the problem. YOU WIN!

I would rather recommend peeing in the case instead of farting. That should significantly reduce the overheating (maybe forever though)...






Are you incompetent of understanding that a public board is for community interaction and not your private feedback for the devs (with a "Please help" in the headline)? Go write them an email if you don't want to bother with other people here and just report your issues, goddammit...

People these days...