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It seems you do need a translation.

- I didnt "mention" anything. I specifically described a specific issue and provided some background info so the time isnt lost on what doesnt matter.

- There is no "we". You do not belong to some well meaning group of helpers but to a few morons who go around "defending the game" but actually aggressively defending their own emotional engagement by being stupid, ignorant and arrogant while pretending and acting as if you are helping - in order to make yourself look like poor victims.

Ahhh but you meant well, ooohhh!

Yes, you are all just ordinary internet dumbasses who dont know anything specific about these issues. Thats not really anything to wonder about.

- You can pretend to be knowledgeable about something only to complete noobs.
So go find some.

People who report these issues in this thread are trying to reach the devs, not you or these other few dumbasses to give them your superior advice.

And all you are doing is spamming the thread with your egoistic nonsense.
And ignorant declarations and "orders".

That nobody asked for.




Thats a blatant lie.

Are you expecting me to reply to it politely?

Would you want a music wish to go with it too?

The only reason for you to claim such a stupid, obviously not true thing is the to present yourself as poor victims while your are insulting and lying all around.



This is your what... tenth off topic spamming post aimed at me personally... in a row, right?

Nooo ... its my fault for you being a lousy poster too? You dont say...

I dont know... you better organize a lynch mob or something.

This will be a two part'r the blatant lie and you not attacking people is going to take me some time to gather all that evidence up. Believe me that could take longer than figuring out who killed Jake from State Farm.

But you mentioned: (post 510304)

"I didnt "mention" anything."

You mentioned you had the same issue others mentioned about GPU's running hot. Most tried to ask you some questions to work with you to see if they could help, you hated on us, we don't get it. We never seem to get your posts, when does it become your problem and not ours? How can I even carry a job being so off base all the time? My whole existence should be in question.

The problem I have was not accepting that you don't accept help (asked for or not) and that I can never understand what you are talking about, because my replies are so left field, always. That is my bad and for that guilty as charged.

Hiver, I'm sorry brother but you're in clear denial of a basic fact.

No game, no matter how poorly optimized, can make your hardware run at more than 100% utilization. If your computer cannot run at 100% utilization without overheating, your computer isn't built properly. Period.

This game is not well optimized yet (although they've done some work...it's far better today than it was at launch). It could use some work in the department for sure, that is also a fact.

But your machine is still not setup properly because no software, no matter how poorly written, can make your CPU & GPU emit more heat than they emit at 100% utilization. You need to address your cooling problem, regardless of whether or not this game is ever optimized to use less of your resources so it avoids exposing the flaws in your build.

Don't even try. According to him everyone here is just "defending" the game and we all have no idea what we are talking about. Giving him advices or stating facts is not helping but is obviously "insulting" him.

I have enough of this thread. Notified OP for his constant insulting and disdainful posting here.

Here is just this thread, to be honest I was even taken aback and I've read a good part of it: (To various posters)


Hiver's comments to others in most cases trying to help:

No shit? Only in D:OS? Maybe you are a tool? Ever think about that?

Maybe there is something wrong with your head instead?

Its careless, ignorant, arrogant and worse - fueled by desire to "defend the game"

And i never asked for your advice. You cant help me. Who are you anyway?

Another white knight defending the developers and the game... for no reason at all.

mkay? (Repeated use, the m represents a teeth grinding okay)

besides, nobody asked you a thing.

Who gives a damn about what you an ignorant defender of the holy game

empty ignorant unsupported statements you made

Are you people incompetent of understanding

A friend of mine found out that some pills really helped with his issues. Maybe you should try some.

Arent you a little laughable butthurt little crybaby you.

but to a few morons who go around "defending the game"

aggressively defending their own emotional engagement by being stupid, ignorant and arrogant while pretending

you are all just ordinary internet dumbasses


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And knowing your work for months, this is simply the tip of the proverbial ice-berg.

As mentioned this isn't your personal forum. You can PM or email tech support or you can make note and then deal with public reaction to it, that is how it works. I know their team members have shared their support teams email many times with others with issues.

This isn't your first forums you've posted to is it?

You can't even see when people want to help even if you aren't asking, you have no couth to graciously say "Thanks, but no thanks." Your comments above are how you react to help.

Here are the rest from today and yesterday....

-Several posts you are helpful, but get bad Hiver and watchout!

Gee... it seems my words are too goddamn complicated

I think, on the other hand that people like you who cannot read or comprehend simple sentences are a cancer on humanity.

Why dont you all do me a favor and jump of a cliff somewhere?

common sense, reason and logic are also unfamiliar territories for you

that avatar so ironically fitting for such an intellect?

The ironic thing is that it isnt comically looking but idiotically and moronically looking. Which fits your intellectual capacities

And you are too stupid to understand that

As well as being too stupid to understand a notion of reading and understanding

finding idiotic excuses for your off topic spamming

two or three of you geniuses who dont know which game they are playing

who are so incompetent and incapable of adjusting the basic tactics

whose pathetic asses get handed back to you by superior Ai

you and those other few dumbasses how and why you are wrong

you are so pathetic that you think willfully denying explanations and outright lying about who said what

I love it when other poeple start it and then play victims when they run out of any actual arguments, if they ever had any.

Thats your problem right there. You have a single simpleton notion

youre a devolved mass market MMO player and youre just hitting your head against a wall of your own nonsense

Put in the simple enough terms so you can grasp it

What kind of ass backwards thinking is that?

Horrorscope.. as fellow bluesnews user let me give you a bit of advice (something you should have done since beta.. but it's never too late)

Go here
http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showprofile&User=24252
Click "Ignore this user" and be happy

Thanks! I was looking for that feature.

Now as long as no-one else quotes his posts, he's "gone with the wind".

eRe4s3r... I have never ignored anyone in a lot of years doing this (not even at Blues), I want to think I can handle it. I get that I'm putting my neck out here and it can come back and bite me, the reportee sometimes pays. But really, I think enough is enough with this and I don't want to cower to it either, he wins that way. I willing to accept the risk.

Thanks for looking out though!

@Horrorscope

I'm with you and I applaud you for your work here. I usually never ignore users. Rude people just poison a community and they should be pointed out ASAP imo. Such rude and insulting behaviour shouldn't be allowed on any board. Users like that shouldn't be ignored, they should be cautioned or - if that doesn't help - banned for the sake of the community.

hey, you people are still going on about this... wow..
So much butthurt about being ignorant little pricks.

:lol: banned for the sake of community.... what a pathetic retard you are. hahaha... you guys - you specific three-four guys are great "community". The cream of the crop.
What developer would not want you? ahahah...





The community!

:lol:

Applause.


Horrorscope managed to cherry pick two meager posts and one of them is repeating stuff from this very thread too. Thats great for your insane plans and ideas but you can take all that and shove it where the sun dont shine.



It isnt your personal forums either, dumbass.

Stop telling me what should i do or write. How about that?

And you few people should stop attacking those that report various issues.

Its not any help, it aggressive idiocy.

All youre doing is making the devs look bad.

Why is everyone so serious here?

Obviously he just needs some fire res gear for his cpu to stop overheating. Maybe hes just getting bad RNG?

To all of you saying 100% is 100%: you are wrong.

It always depends on the circumstances, since you can have 100% GPU LOAD with less than 100% GPU POWER DRAW and then it is not a problem, since the graphics card is designed for such a usage. But it is not designed for 100% power draw, because that usually exceeds the TDP.

The card does not mind 100% power draw peaks, since they are short lived and thermal dissipation inside the parts keeps the core temperature from exceeding the maximum. But when you continuously keep the heat generation through power consumed above the TDP or for a modified card the heat dissipation limit of the coolant system then the card will inevitably overheat and nothing anyone can modify in the case will help against that. Which is the reason, why overclocked cards also have a modified fan setup; this does not happen because two fans look cooler than one!

When designing graphics cards one has to estimate the normal work cycle the same way one would do when designing a vehicle engine. You take a base level usage and then add the possibility to exceed that for a short time, but only a short time. This can easily be compared to a car's red area of the rpm display, you can enter that area for a short while to push the limits of your car, but staying there constantly will lead to you kissing good bye to your cylinder head gaskets.

The whole concept of load vs. power is a thing game designers need to consider when programming. There have been a lot of cases in the past where a graphically demanding game for the time would use 100% load and not power, which is good. The bad part starts when switching to the graphically simple 2D menu would still use 100% load but also push the power consumption to its limits because the card tries to redraw that menu a few hundred times a second just because it can. And this then heats the card beyond it's safety limits.


tl;dr: GPU load is not the same as GPU power and one can not be judged without the other one when considering GPU heat.

Exactly, thank you.

Im sure the devs will do whatever they can to minimize this effect. After all, it is them who know the engine the best.

I didnt mention earlier, that i am running the game at medium quality (low for character models) and with all post processing special effects turned off, without anti-aliasing or anisotropic filtering and with the card being set to performance in its options. (yes, all the drivers are the latest ones)

My fps is about 25, btw. Which is normal for my setup.
(but i did set the fps limiter in game options JUST IN CASE too)

As far as i can see, the temperature spike happens specifically during combat.
Which isnt surprising, of course, but i guess it atleast narrows the problem down a bit.


In Beta, i had a regular crash to desktop when i would try to loot stuff left in some burning surface. If i would click really quickly on the items highlighted with Alt the game would immediately and heavily crash. (there are different kinds of CTDs)

So im just guessing that these environmental effects are really tasking and maybe connected to the issue overall. Generally speaking. As a part of the whole combat which adds more of the load on top of all that, of course.



Of course, some cards and some machines will handle this better.
That doesnt mean that the issue is not existing.

If it was only me i would have chalked it down to my old card, (which runs fine otherwise as ive said), but even for her this is a bit too much of a heat spike and of course, im far from being the only one seeing it.

Designers don't bother with card power consumptions, they don't care, they don't know and they don't need to know how this is handled on HW level. You can never write software that has perfect CPU-GPU balance load, and usually such peaks in frame-rate come from such disbalances.
For the few hundred times a second there is an artificial limit setting called VSYNC as we all know.
So if his cards overheat even with that setting on, then there is surely a problem with his cooling solution.

This is the modern form of discussing.

Aka ... "someone is WRONG on the internet !"