Originally Posted by LordCrash

It honors Larian that they at least try to deliver on their promises (or rather "goals" as the wording stretch goal implies)

You don't get off that easily: The original kickstarter is also a goal.

A stretch goal is neither more nor less of a promise of what the kickstarter starter will do than the original goals, it is merely an additional goal for a certain funding target.

https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creator+questions#faq_50035

If you consider any of the goals announced in a kickstarter as promises to the backers (including the original kickstarter goal(s)), you should consider all of them to be so rather than picking and choosing to fit your narrative.

Now, legally, the only things in a kickstarter that (currently) counts as promises are the rewards promised to backers, so it is certainly possible to take the standpoint that nothing that is stated about the project to be made in the kickstarter should be taken as a promise so long as you keep it away from the reward tiers, and that regardless of what is actually made - so long as what is explicitly stated in the reward tiers is carried out, all promises have been fulfilled. This would be an extreme position, however, and not one shared by most backers, as the majority expect that the goals stated in the kickstarter are actually what will be done should funding occur.

So if you think it honours them to try to deliver on their stretch goals, presumably you also think it honours them that they delivered on any part of D:OS that was mentioned in the original goal.

I think this is a good game. I think that, overall, Larian has done pretty well with their kickstarter. And though I feel they have failed in communicating properly with respect to their failure to achieve goals, I am hopeful that they've learned valuable lessons from that in case they ever want to start another kickstarter project.

But I must admit that your idea that we should honour and praise Larian for trying post-release to deliver on announced funded goals that they failed to deliver upon release truly baffles me.


When I said death before dishonour, I meant it alphabetically.