Oooh ta Reptile for the quick reply, good to know I am not the only one who takes it section by section in case I miss anything. I have little blue flags all over map reminding me which bits I need to go back to or what I havent managed to find out yet. (sigh... sad I know). Have also found out to my favour that even if you think you have talked to people as much as you can, there is still stuff to find out if you go pay em another visit.

I will only download the walkthrough if I absolutely need it, I hate to find out stuff before I need to, which is why I tried not to go thru all the stuff on forum in case I found out stuff I didnt want to.

Meanwhile I will go by the save where I confront him and he says I will regret it, and I say see you in prison.. I then get set upon next time I teleport anywhere. I will still keep save where I have teleported out and he doesnt know I have been in cellar, so I can keep my options open. It will prob soon be clear anyway.

I will keep coming back every 10 mins or so to see if anyone else can help me with options.

Thanks again.

Z