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Wow, impressive review! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
Thank you so much Winterfox. I have heard some people saying that NWN was so-so, but now you gave me good reasons why. I see no sence to play poorly made game, especially knowing that there are so many excellent games around. I will look for something else. Thanks again.
"Endure. In enduring, grow strong."
-Githzerai adage.
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Thanks for the compliment, and welcome. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Really, though, if you can get it cheaply (although I doubt that...) or a pirated copy (no moral high ground lecture, please; it's gotten tiresome) with serial number, you could try it just for the mods. Would be damn impractical to buy a game for custom contents only.
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I think I'll just wait for that addon and see if there is any progress <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
"Endure. In enduring, grow strong."
-Githzerai adage.
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... or a pirated copy (no moral high ground lecture, please; it's gotten tiresome) with serial number... But still, we don't allow to talk about this in our forum.
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apprentice
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Joined: May 2003
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Lol, i agree there, NWN's single player campaign was horrible. Heck even the "hardcore" NWN fans will probably tell you they never finished it. I only bought it for the Editor. It's amazing what you can create yourself though, even though the Bioware team didn't seem to have the ability to demonstrate what you can do with the editor via the single player campaign. Heck you can probably recreate any other game with custom skills/spells if you want, although i agree Dungeon Siege had a much much better engine, even though i hated the actual gameplay.
Either way i'm willing to go as far as saying NWN is more a "software package" than a game if you got some coding skills. They probably would have done better than to sell it that way and said "oh, just for fun, here's a campaign created with the package". Actually i think that's what it amounted to anyway :P Should've called it "Bioware RPG Creator v1".
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Yes, they should've published as, <i>Aurora Engine: The Toolset</i> rather than <i>Neverwinter Nights</i>. Sheesh, "something like BG2", indeed.
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stranger
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Joined: May 2003
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I recomend u peeps all go out and buy Arcanum- its just one great game
Its FrunkHelm! The Nerevarine!
Free the slaves!
Arcanum - Probably the best RPG ever!
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I recomend u peeps all go out and buy Arcanum- its just one great game Arcanum is (In my opinion) one of the BEST RPG's (Other than PS:Torment). IT DOES however suffer from beeing released too soon, horrible combat problems. OTHER THAN THAT, BEST.ORIGIONAL.RPG.STORY. ;P They *tried* to do so much but it failed. *I* still rank DD above Arcanum only in it's depth and much better combat. I *WOULD* love to see DD2 with the depth of story/history that Arcanum did. *Pounds that into the DD devs heads* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Arcanum IS still a damn good RPG. I quite honestly am more looking forward to DD2, with a more origional story. They did a pretty good job with DD1 and now dang it I WANT TO SEE MORE! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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The problem I'm having is that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> is so head-and-shoulders above just about every RPG out there that it's just about impossible to find a game that is as good as <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />. Here's hoping Temple of Elemental Evil can live up to the hype.
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*snark*
Heh, as far as I am concerned, PS:T is superior to Divine Divinity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> (So sorry. You have to admit that, in term of story, DD is filled from one end to another with cliches.)
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Joined: Apr 2003
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Agreed. A bit of critics. DD's ending was dissapointing. Story was ok, but not deep enough to be impressive.
"Endure. In enduring, grow strong."
-Githzerai adage.
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I agree with a review of DD I read that said while its not original, its so familiar its instantly accessible. PS:T will be a tough game to top, playing it was like reading a novel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
I will call you "Squishy", and you will be my squishy! OW! BAD SQUISHY!
- Dory, Finding Nemo
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apprentice
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Joined: May 2003
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Wait for the Temple of the Elemental Evil!!!!I hope it will be released this summer. If you like ROLE - PLAYING GAMES try playing Baldur's I and II or Planescape.Gothic and morrowind are quite nice but 3D. If you like ANTIROLE -PLAYING GAMES play Dungeon Siege and especially DIABLO I and II.
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Joined: May 2003
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Also, with some luck, Lionheart from Black Isle / Reflexive studios might be released soon enough. It could go either way, but it looks promising nonetheless. The S-P-E-C-I-A-L system should be great to use once again as well.
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Joined: May 2003
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From the start NWN was marketed as basicly a virtual table. One of the big selling points was the ability to acualy play a user made moduel with a group of people and someone on the DM client. NWN connections sets up games.. and if you do those, or some of the better single player mods, its good. All in all i think the game is worth it, simply becaus the fact that its SO easy to make mods means that every day theres a new one comeing out... so you always have SOMETHING new to do. There are some verry good moduels out there, from short 1 hour moduels, to things that last houres, and in development are real 40+ hour long games. And iv always said that if youv got nothing better to do.. the OC is an ok way to kill a few days..
The best way to play dungeon siege is just make everyone into an archer and pass out.. you will eventualy find that you have finished then you can marvel at the pretty graphics and put the game away=P I acualy think the story of its included multiplayer world is better than the single... but i cant for the life of me remember what it was...
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Lol, i agree there, NWN's single player campaign was horrible. Heck even the "hardcore" NWN fans will probably tell you they never finished it. I actually know one of them. He's a long-time member of the community there. He bought the english version *very* soon, and told me he was highly disappointed. I haven't seen him for a while, that's why I even can't remember his name. The only thing I remeber is that he represents an Dark Elf in the community.
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it. --Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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The best way to play dungeon siege is just make everyone into an archer and pass out.. you will eventualy find that you have finished then you can marvel at the pretty graphics and put the game away=P That's sadly accurate. I only played the demo, and I was all but falling asleep. Oh, wait, the game's quite interactive, really. You have to hit a key or two to make the characters drink potions!
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The ONE THING DS did that was revolutionary to RPG's was the "streaming" game. My gawd NO LOADING was one of the best things I have ever witnessed in a game.
OK other than there was NO STORY *cough* but it was designed as a RTS RGP game. And in that aspect, they did well.
my 2P
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Joined: May 2003
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MBoard Newbie says Hi, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
I enjoyed both NWN and DS a great deal and have played the single player versions of both several times (3 for NWN and 5 for DS). DS was huge fun for Lan games and got some of my fellow gamers off of UT2k3 and Q3 for something a bit diff for a while, one of them in turn got me off DS and NWN onto DD - stout fella.
I got my copy of DD a week ago and since being very familiar with both NWN and DS I found the control system for DD a real pain to begin with, It is now almost second nature though and I am totally engrossed. I just wish I had the time to play more!
DQ.
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Joined: Mar 2003
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*sigh* My only sadness is that so many people analize the games they play so strictly. While i guess this is everyone's right it saddens me to see so many people knock NWN.....I thoroughly enjoyed the game and found that playing it was great fun. I have played many many many games including BG1 with expansion, BG2 with expansion, Icewind Dale 1 & 2, PST, DS, Diablo 1 & 2 with expansion, and many many more and have found that each game was worth every cent for what they were intended to be. DD is one of the best up there in my opinion with PST which i think most people agree on. I would just like to see people play the games and simply enjoy them for the hours of entertainment that they provide.
Maybe I am easy to please who knows, I just would like to say that for viewing and gaming pleasure I found NWN to be one of the best and with the game enabling people to create mods, they have enabled the creators of the game to see what people have created and gain new ideas which I envision will create great things in the future in gaming for us all. NWN set a new standard in some aspects which will kickstart a new era in RPG gaming which I eagerly await.
Good gaming to you all and I can't wait to see what the next era of games brings to us.
Axis <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
That is not dead which can eternal lie.
Yet with strange aeons even death may die.
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