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Keep the Bloodstones, even after it becomes inert, keep them all but dont use them all immediately you will need onefor a quest. Mini-spoiler follows....

(As Raze said use them in your inventory then pick it up off the ground once it becomes inert, it will give exp and heal you and unlock new doors in the homestead. You especially want to unlock Hall of secrets that is the 5th stone you find, the lady in there sells stat and skill books to improve your character every level up but they are expensive and in limited supply. You should have found 5 by the time you leave the Cyseal map providing you did everything and went everywhere.)

Heal potions never go above the Huge Potion level which heals 226 points I think, but all the other heals both water spells and cure wounds improve as you level up, eventually the AP cost to use the heal spells drops to like 4 AP, when your level in Hydro and MaA gets high enough.

I dont doubt the crossbow at all, they just dont really work that fast, I have one and have owned several and compound bows, composite bows, and a Longbow, crossbows should have a much lower dexterity requirement and a much higher AP cost to use, but should do more damage than any bow and should be more accurate, but that might be too unbalancing. A legendary one with Oath of Desecration, high user skill, leadership damage buff and upgraded with sextant , bowstring, and essence or tenebrium would be a freakin death ray!

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That's strange, I have two inert stones that I ended up with, even though I've never used a bloodstone? So right now I have 2 inert and 1 bloodstone but have only Hall of Heroes in the Homestead. Right now I'm at the point where it looks like my next step is Investigate the Church and then to Head North to find the White Which in some kind of forest. It seems like I"m a bit over the level that I should be? I'm level 8 right now with all my guys and I'm facing level 7s on my way to the church... =/

FIVE!??? What! 5 blood stones? omg wait what, are you serious? I have only unlocked Hall of Heroes even though I'm doing all the quests these guys want!! I really want to buy skill books! My financial situation is briliant!


Thanks for the tip about potions and crossbows!


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Hey 321, I think you might be missing one...so 1 at thelyrons clinic, 1 in Black Cove, 1 in the Fire Forest, 1 in Murder scene in Crab inn, the 5th you cannot of found yet and you should have also unlocked one of the elemental rooms in the homestead.

http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_/_Star_Stone_Locations

this is filled with spoilers, but the link lists locations of all the stones.

I bet you missed the one in the fire forest, it is hard to see against the black ground. MOst of the time the stone is already inert having been triggered, but you still need them.

You should have 5 before you go to Luculla forest.

Skill and stat books are 10K a piece or more or less depending on your barter level.

Level 8, is fine, I am usually about level 10 when I leave the Cyseal map and about level 9 or nearly 10 when I head to church.

Make sure you visited/cleared the whole Cyseal map.

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Star stones are generally triggered when you approach (like the crime scene in the King Crab tavern), but can be more than just that (Evelyn in the clinic). The observatory and hall of heroes correspond to the first 2 inert stones.

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Hm, I haven't been in a fire forest! Unless you mean that one field with the elementals just before going into one of the two mirror dungeons... but you probably don't mean that haha.


So you get a skill book every level, wow! I wish I wouldn't have levelled to 8 already then I could have 1 more! I can get 10k, although unfortunately I've been buying Spell Books in advance and then finding them anyway -_- waste of money there. I'll have to sell some more beer and put some Branches together and spread some staves around Cyseal or something like that. I think I'll be ok if it's just 1 skill book per level anyway, I can make 10k a level probably =) I put 2 points into Barter on my Ranger because this is my first playthrough, so with gear that's 4. On Normal difficulty it's ok to spend a few skillpoints in a less optimal way IMO. I'd be more careful on Hard maybe.


Sorry for asking so many questions guys, this thread was supposed to be about combat and stuff, I got carried away haha. Such a great game. I especially loved when /i looted a haystack and found... a needle. Little things like that are just fantastic.

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Nope, that is not the fire forest...it is to the north and just west of the Church and graveyard. You will know it when you see it...Rain is a good spell to have at this point. You need to sweep and clear that area and I would do it before you go to church for a come to Jesus Meeting.

NO you cannot get any skill/stat books before you have 5 stones because the hall of secrets does not unlock until you do, so your fine on that point.

Just wait til you loot a stack of needles and find a needle! LOL just kidding.

Books are 10K each so 20K per level, also sometimes the books restock before you level up and then again when you level up. I usually give the stat book to the fighter and the skill book to the mage, mages need skill points more and Fighters need stats and better weapons and armor more.

Its the best game of 2014 or 2015, actually its my favorite game in 5 years.

I am vicariously enjoying helping you out actually most people who like this game seem to enjoy helping others with it since it ratifies our enjoyment of the same things in the same way for the same reasons.

Righteous isnt it?

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Haha, fair enough! I actually know the feeling. It's what I did with many games, but especially Dark Souls and DS2. I spent MONTHS on there telling people to put 80% of their points into Stamina but only a few listened...

OK yeah, 5 stones, I checked and you get them a bit later to unlock Hall of Secrets. There's a guide on how to rush to it but I think I'll just play through it at regular pace. I'll probably have them around level 10-12 I guess, that's fine right?

Hm also I read that apparently some update changed it so that you can only buy 1 of each book and they don't restock each level. Haha oh well! Seems like it would've been pretty OP

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No they restock each level, but you can only buy 1 of each at a time. That post is wrong or out of date. It is not overpowered, and buying them is optional...you dont want to, then dont, it isnt mandatory. I like being able to improve my characters often since i only have 3 anyway and I want to play a hero -not some lame desperate loser suck-ass character who cant do anything and is so weak, slow, clumsy, wimpy, stupid and unskilled that they never would have become an adventurer they would have been the local moron-halfwit who runs the manure cart for the local village and on sundays doubles as the village idiot. LOL.

I always have the Hall of secrets unlocked before I leave the Cyseal map there are 5 stones on that map. There is a rush guide but it seems to be stealth oriented, I am not a stealth player just not in my blood I guess. Sneakybadger did the rush though and it works. Cyseal map has just enough experience to be 10th level and have 5 bloodstones when you leave to go to Luculla Forest. Dont rush man take your time enjoy the scenary, meet the locals and kill some of them. Does not matter what order you get the stones in or where becasue the fifth stone always opens the hall of secrets BUT YOU NEED ALL THE STONES for the game so get em all and keep em all.


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No they restock each level, but you can only buy 1 of each at a time. That post is wrong or out of date. It is not overpowered, and buying them is optional...you dont want to, then dont, it isnt mandatory. I like being able to improve my characters often since i only have 3 anyway and I want to play a hero -not some lame desperate loser suck-ass character who cant do anything and is so weak, slow, clumsy, wimpy, stupid and unskilled that they never would have become an adventurer they would have been the local moron-halfwit who runs the manure cart for the local village and on sundays doubles as the village idiot. LOL.

I always have the Hall of secrets unlocked before I leave the Cyseal map there are 5 stones on that map. There is a rush guide but it seems to be stealth oriented, I am not a stealth player just not in my blood I guess. Sneakybadger did the rush though and it works. Cyseal map has just enough experience to be 10th level and have 5 bloodstones when you leave to go to Luculla Forest. Dont rush man take your time enjoy the scenary, meet the locals and kill some of them. Does not matter what order you get the stones in or where becasue the fifth stone always opens the hall of secrets BUT YOU NEED ALL THE STONES for the game so get em all and keep em all.



Really? I don't understand =/

According to the rush guide (not because I want to follow it) http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Divinity:_Original_Sin_-_Teller_of_Secrets you don't get the 4th and 5th until some place called "Silverglen Villag" (never been there).

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That would be because the entire point of the RUSH guide is to avoid combat and hence XP, thus you have to skip out on two stones in the Cyseal area which require fighting.

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Originally Posted by Felixg91
Hey 321, I think you might be missing one...so 1 at thelyrons clinic, 1 in Black Cove, 1 in the Fire Forest, 1 in Murder scene in Crab inn, the 5th you cannot of found yet and you should have also unlocked one of the elemental rooms in the homestead.

http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_/_Star_Stone_Locations


OK I got all those... once I got the Fire Forest one just now, they opened a new portal for me, but it's only the 3rd portal "Inner Chamber" not Hall of secrets.

In my inventory there are 3 inert stones and 1 blood stone, and then of course the star stone from the crime scene. So... that makes 5 total and I was only given access to Inner Chamber. According to the Homestead page, that's only the 3rd room http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Homestead_%28Divinity:_Original_Sin%29 and Hall of Secrets is the 5th!

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Maybe I did something wrong, but i've been going back to Homestead anyway just to swap in the Rogue for some extra pickpocketing and I was never shown any new rooms so I don't think I did

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Okay buddy, lemme understand you have 4 gray inerts and a red? Simple then use the red stone then pick it up off the ground. Fifthstone opens the hall of secrets.

So use that stone then go look for zixzax he will be standing by each new portal in the homestead when it opens and he says to go through it.

The hall of secrets is the first hand on the left when you turn left from the plac eyou appear at when you twleport to the homestead.

Ignore the rush guide. As stabbey says it avoids combat.

Where did all your stones come from?

You did not go to luculla yet right?

Areas in homestead that are open should be inner chamber, hall of heroes, observatory, an elemental arch, and the fifth opens hall of secrets.

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The Star Stone from the crime scene should become an inert stone after you approach it.

If you do have 4 inert stones, enter the Inner Chamber again (go far enough to get the cutscene conversation with a demon, if you have not done that already) and then return to the main section of the homestead with one of your main characters selected as leader. That should get Zixzax to head over to the statue, if you have enough used star/blood stones.

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Listen to Raze.

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OKOKOK, so once I killed Baccus Rex I had enough (By the way this guy: ??? I walked in and he used some spell and 3 of my team got instakilled! except Madora who had a tiny bit of HP left! that was a long battle haha) and then I used that blood stone I had to save that mutation of jar jar binks+jabba the hut and now I'm good. Thanks guys! I got the books haha, oh and that blacksmith in Silverglen has me at 100 attitutde so... that was definitely worth it, financially speaking.



As for that instadeath situation, it must've been a formation problem...

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Actually I fought Braccus Rex yesterday and it was different than last couple of times, first I ran up as close as I could with Magnus ( the Knight) dialogue ensued after which Braccus stepped closer to swing his axe, and Magnus wacked him with his 2handed sword in an oppurtunity attack before he attacked me, took him down about 30% of health then he turned and ran, so he coud summon his minions, My mage ( Alyssa) cast Oath of desecration and Wildfire on Magnus, who Battering rammed the twins and ended up between the twins and Braccus so Magnus Whirlwinded, killed the Twins and Brought Braccus down to less than 30% health, then Magnus hit him again and got a crit and killed Braccus, Wolgraff then shot the ghoul to pieces having moved to get a shot aroundthe bannister, after that we all attacked the Baron and killed him. That went pretty well!

Hey glad its going well for ya 321, if ya need any help just ask. But I think you actually got it now anyway.


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Yeah I think I got it but it's always fun to talk about.

Damn bro, that's a lot of melee damage right there! Haha, very nice! That went almost as smoothly as it did for me: Run in, dialogue, some kind of fire attack that kills 3/4 of my team and 9/10 of Madora =) Anyway, I absolutely refuse to reload, and I wasn't going to let this bastard be the first time I've gotten Game Over! thank god for Glass Cannon giving me enough AP to use Resurrection everytime another one got resurrected.



By the way guys, I tested it myself and I can confirm: Henchmen no longer level up to your level, but Companions do. I'm gonna keep Wolfgraff and Bardoitre(sp?) on ice until i'm level 11 so I can up them both immediately to level 5 pickpocket and give them each pickpocket gear and make the rounds! At level 7 pickpocketing total that means I can clean 1,360g off every mark, with each of them. That's gonna add up! General pickpocketing priority advice:
1. Things you will use.
2. Cash
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5. Things you could sell.


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Why would that list need more than three things? People tend to not use pickpocketing on their mains because generally speaking, money troubles tend to end about level 4-6, when you start to get a lot of "junk" magic items to sell, and can clean out their gold the easy way.

Most people other than merchants don't really carry much worth stealing anyway. Plus, often merchants tend to be in areas with lots of people, making them difficult to pickpocket at all.

The good news is that you can indeed pickpocket the same person with two different characters. There's no general "has been pickpocketed" flag that applies to everyone, it's a "has been pickpocketed by Wolgraff".

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Originally Posted by Stabbey
Why would that list need more than three things? People tend to not use pickpocketing on their mains because generally speaking, money troubles tend to end about level 4-6, when you start to get a lot of "junk" magic items to sell, and can clean out their gold the easy way.

Most people other than merchants don't really carry much worth stealing anyway. Plus, often merchants tend to be in areas with lots of people, making them difficult to pickpocket at all.

The good news is that you can indeed pickpocket the same person with two different characters. There's no general "has been pickpocketed" flag that applies to everyone, it's a "has been pickpocketed by Wolgraff".


Because! Bro, I'm really slow when I play games like this... And I guess if other players are as slow as me, they'll notice that the skill book lady in Homestead actually sells the books AGAIN, before even leveling up! I've "had to" buy 4 books already since I leveled up to level 10. It adds up man! Seriously, especially if you buy every shiny thing you come across anyway. I gotta tell you, I'm a complete scroll and special arrow junkie. I've probably spent 30k+ on that stuff this playthrough and I'm only at level 10. I also buy weapons and enchanted gear all the time whenever I see something that gives 1 attribute in a better direction.


I've been making my money selling beer and loot but it's getting to the point where I'm going to NEED to pickpocker next level to buy as many skill books, unless I want to resort to cheap explotative crafting tactics (a la Elder Scrolls - no thank you). You see, from a roleplaying standpoint, pickpocketing makes sense. However, crafting overpriced potions and ridiculous weapons only to sell them en masse to everyone from painters to Vegetable merchants, is less realistic, and starts to bother me and I feel like I'm back in Skyrim where I made 20k in like 5 minutes of enchanting daggers.


I've used pickpocket on my main with some success through this playthrough. Since this game isn't so hard that you need to min/max, it didn't hurt me to throw 3 points into pickpocket. That + gear already worked for some funding. Now, however, everyone in town is starting to carry some serious money, so the time has come for Wolfgraff to make the rounds with a high pickpocket. =) I'm not interested in using Wolfgraff or the Ranger lady at all for my main party. One of my two mains is a Ranger so I'm fine and I've grown attached to Madora and Jahan. I might as well get some use out of those other 2 now.


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