Originally Posted by gGeo
Well, probably you didn't read it carefully.
there are 2 ways of get a talent
1. pick it for a talent point
2. reach the certain skill and get for free (without point)

Got it?


You misunderstand.

The point is that using your proposed revision for Backstab, anyone who takes Rogue will STILL have to take it at character creation. Your revision misses the point.

The reason is because having Backstab is absolutely critical to keeping a rogue's damage output useful. A Rogue trying to get the "free" backstab has to not only wait until level 6, but also they get only two ability points to spend on anything else other than Scoundrel. What can a Rogue who takes the "free" option do before level 6? Just shoot things with a bow, I guess.

Backstabbing should not be reliant on an talent or ability level, it should be something anyone wielding a knife can do; it should simply be a property of the weapon. Dexterity requirements will keep fighters and mages from wielding them.


In terms of talent balance, I think that would also be an improvement. You get a total of 7 talents per game. Useful Rogue Talents:
  • Back-Stabber
  • Guerrilla (Sneak 1)
  • Headstrong (Scoundrel 5)
  • Light Stepper (+2 PER - Trap/Secret Detection)
  • Sidestepper (Expert Marksman 2)
  • Speedcreeper (Sneak 1)
  • Stench
  • Swiftfooted (Scoundrel 2)


And that's not counting generally useful Talents.