Larian Studios Forums Divine Divinity (English) General Game still buggy, when do the next patch come?

Few questions:
You say that you stats says 87-137 how do you come up with 85-130 with 0 skill ranks?

You say "108 +/- 15 average and standard deviation" Do you mean that you are making avrage damage 108 or should make avrage 108?

Do you increase strenght between the tests?

Are you playing male warrior so you get the extra skill level in augment damage upon reloding a saved game?

Jake has 47 armour and i naver done my potential max damage on him even with skill that i know works. So how come one can make damage above avrage?

Are you using the english version of the game?

/Mordan

The character I used was a female survivor on the hard difficulty level, in a new game started after installing the 1.33 patch, english version. I raised strength to 60 and agility to 30 to equip the axe (which had a +2 or 3 strength bonus), and did not put any skill points into Augment Damage.

The minimum, maximum, average and standard deviation I listed are all directly from the damage values that scrolled up the screen as I repeatedly killed Jake (3 times without Axe Expertise and 3 times with it maxed, no other changes).

With a listed damage range of 87-137, you would expect an average of 112 damage (assuming a flat damage distribution). With the Axe Expertise damage bonus of 11+50, the damage range should be 98-198, for an expected average of 148.

Here a screenshot of my stats.


On this screenshots you see my stats with my completed equipment. Only the weapon are absent.
But note, I have only used weapons without any additionally stats or skills. I have only used "simply" weapons. And also note: The damage value in your stats are not the real damage you can bring.
I hope you can understand my, otherwise Kiya must translate. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

€: Here you can see the axa I have used.

For those still puzzling about skills:
The char screen shows offense, defense, damage, armour = these values are determined by strength, agility... and boni you have due to your equipment not due to your weapon skills.

So, as you see on this screenshot: my equipped axe has 50-100 dam - my damage on the char screen shows something different and these values have not changed due to axe expertise lvl 1 - because the weapon skill has nothing to do with the values on the char screen.

So, how am I to know if a skill works or not? Just by killing and watching the hit pts your enemy loses (or you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />), taking the average damage from there and comparing this average value with your different skill lvls. This procedure shows only comparable results if weapon and monsters stay the same and only the skill lvl changes. It is more complicated with a magical weapon, that's why normal weapons should be used for this test.

Did I know this before? No, but it was explained to me in a very patient manner by Barnie (Dank dir <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />) over and over again. Hope, this will help others, too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
Kiya

I've asked Barnabus if he can give me a formula to explain this a bit more clearer - you know: X + Y - w = result, something like that... he replied this would take some time, but he's willing to try it.

Okey Barnabus, some thing is very wrong here i so not do a any extra damage when i compare 0 skill levels in axe with 5 skill levels and i have tested thos now on alot o diffrent creatures.

Sorry about the damage calculation on the axe thing i was using the wrong devider when i devieded the strenght to get you bace damage.

Stupid question (perhaps not): Few of my frends have also bought this game and have sama problems with damage as me so my question is "Are anyone that using the english version of the game have the same problem?"

/Mordan

I can't understand some of this thread due to grammar differences between the English people and the other language speaking people, but I must ask the question, why is the character panel the only thing you use?

In many games, uncluding Diablo 2, the listed damage is incorrect and the seemingly useless skill actually adds it's damage secretly.

The character pane info is only used as a guide to approximate how much damage should be done. The damage bonus due to strength is added in with this value, so that can cause confusion if people think all bonus damage is displayed, without checking further.

Bug found and Barnabus have reported it.

Its was a silly thing. I patched the game without any errormassages but still the files was not patched. This was becurse i was not admin at the time patched the game. So to all using Windows XP Pro make sure you are login as the same user as installed the game else you will get strange problems.


/Mordan

GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS!!!
I can't believe my eyes.. you guys actually bother about such details? I mean to the very last digit? What's the difference hitting for 80 Hp and 75? well that just me..

I didn't understand it either. I just wanted to have some fun, not calculate my outcome ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Well, Mordan did find out something very important <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> No Admin warning - and without his expertise/damage problems others would have probably run into similar problems (updating a game and not having the update).
Kiya

So what's the conclusion? That there are no bugs?

Bug Boy: Do not try and find the bugs. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Spoon Boy: There are no bugs.
Neo: There are no bugs?
Spoon Boy: Then you'll see that it is not the bugs that suck, it is only yourself.

The bug - if it is a bug - is that the patch installer doesn't warn you that you need admin rights when you install it. (Only affects XP and W2K.)

Most people will have admin rights on their home PCs, btw.