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There is a wizard on the first map (near the Barracks) who stops you from entering his back room when I try to walk there. Cat-form, Shadows potions, Survivor Sneak all failed to work. Before I entered his shop I paid gold to listen to poem, and this distracted the wizard, but I did not use that time to run into his back room, as I did not know about it at the time. The poem performer is now gone (got exp for giving him money).

Am I stuck now, never able to loot this back room? There is a book of Elemental Hail and a magical orb in there I want to investigate...


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You might be able to grab the spell book off the table and the knife in the chest with Telekinesis / Wizards Sight. The orb is just decoration, it is not good for anything. The only other way in if you miss the distraction provided by the minstrel is to kill Kistandalius, but since he sells spell books and charms it doesn't make much sense to do so for a single spell book (maybe wait until just before hitting the gong).

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you can change into a spider and chase him out, i don't know how long he stays out though. try dropping a tele stone in there and see what happens. always save first! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

*edit* i just checked the spider thing- i guess it doesn't work on the wizard. works with other merchants, though.

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Do not toss a teleporter stone into the back room of Kistandalius' shop. He will teleport you out (whether he can see you or not) before you have time to react or pick it up, and you will have to re-load, wait until you get to the wastelands or swap inventory files to get another set.

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You can't loot the mage's back shop as a spider - but his front room. I tried Telekinesis, but couldn't get the chest stuff - couldn't even open it, maybe my skill was not high enough.

I had chased the mage out of his shop, he stood in Walker's alchemy room and every time I tried to enter his back room, his voice came (out of the void?) and I couldn't get past the door to his back room.
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yes that happened to me to he was almost up to the tele, is there no way to stop this confounded wizard? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> Don't really want to kill him, how about... drop tele stone in shop, chase the poor bugger halfway across town then tele back, and make it snappy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Nope, won't work - the only opportunity is to rush into the back room whilst Kistandalius listens to the poem of the guy outside.
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Every time you try to cross the back room threshold, K.'s voice comes and you're teleported out again - even if he is far away (alchemist's shop in my case).

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awhile ago i was at the very spot in question, and under a different save i decided to kill kris and went into his back room and found tingalf! hiding in the top corner of the room. Now whaddya think about that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />


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Guess he was stocking up his goods - you made the way free for him <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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I also missed the chance to loot Kista's back room w/o being detected. At last I simply killed him, just before I hit the gong. Then I couldn't resist the feeling to kill everyone in Ars Magicana and killed everyone (Including guards) other than Geoff and Blake. I don't really know why I let them live.
After completing the slaughter, I went to CoS and started the ritual. Don't know what good Gods thought about their new, bloody Divine One, though.
I really regret it now. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

EDIT:
Note that I never met Tingalf in Kista's back room. Any comment?

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