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Swearing can be worked very well into the narrative for a kick in the kidneys. It shouldn't be out of character though and it shouldn't be excessive. I doubt D:OS2 will have swearing and that's fine, it's easier to go overboard if you have swearing than actually making it evocative.

Like I have written: swearing is fine, it just wouldn't fit in the world of Divinity, especially if everyone still has such a big vocabular.

I think mostly dialog in witcher 3, dialog options is all you need, rest can do your imagination. Though i hope Larian will suprise us with some sweet animations.... DanceGirl for example could be good

Well about what would fit into divinity game. Their sense of humor is great (bellegard, power ran... erh slayers), but i think it was pretty excesive is some games (Divinity 2 comes in mind) and it prevented me to fully enjoy it... how can you take seriously end of the world, country a city when there is funny stuff everywhere... i think they should fit their great humor into more serious story. And mostly i think that you could enjoy it more (if it isnt everywhere i mean).
btw i love divinity 2 still have to finish though

I'm all for swearing & sexuality on the level of Game of Thrones & Witcher, but it isn't super important to me. Whatever Larian thinks is best, I'm fine with, as long as the writers are all on the same page consistently throughout the game. RIP adult mode though.

The problem with the funny bits is that they create a contextual dissonance that isn't set up in any way and it feels jarring and breaks the fourth wall. They need better pacing to be able to do actually do something with the comedy, how they are now just creates these islands of nonsense that don't gel well with anything in particular. It's kind of like "random" humour, but even worse.

It somehow reminds me of some Korean movies like the Host or Snowpiercer. Or even Joint security area, or really a lot of asian movies. Moment of humor out of the deep wide blue, during an otherwise very serious scene. Kinda creates a strange mood, tones down the overseriousness of the movie a little.
To be honest the islands of nonsense are what made me like Larian - like that bounty hunter party that ambush you ( can't remember their name right now... shame on me ). That kind of nonsense, unannouced and sudden, is a part of the charm or Larian writings.

They create these mood whiplashes that are very bad for immersion. The problem is that they don't go anywhere and are left hanging, that's why I said they are islands. It breaks any suspension of disbelief right away. Any poorly done mood whiplash does jar you out of a story. It's forced and unreal (a breach in Tolkien's concept of secondary belief). Larian's go even further, by just doing this for a moment and then dropping the whole thing to focus on Fate Weavers and End of Time prophecies before doing it again. It's like they are saying "you didn't forget this is make-believe, right?". Thank you, Larian, I had almost forgotten...

In one of the kickstarter videos they showed some swearing in game. The dwarf in the party approached a statue of some kind of dwarf killer or w/e and called him a bad word (I don't remember what it was). There's also going to be 'racism', which seems to be pretty, light, like when the dwarf calls the humans 'horse-face' or whatever.

As we know from dozens of threads by now Lacrymas you're not the pillar upon which all tastes or games are made. You act like it, but I've seen plenty of people disagree with you, myself included on dozens upon dozens of occassions.

So stop trying to make it sound like your opinions are facts, thank you very much.

As for the swearing; It mostly fits when it's not just F-slang for the heck of it. Witcher used "ploughing" which was much better and in-theme than just random swearing for the heck of it.

But I do have arguments that aren't home-brewed philosophemes. They actually reflect upon what is being said, you saying "but it's muh opinion" tells us nothing concrete. I have never ever mentioned anywhere what I like and what I don't like in games because that's incidental and isn't serious. You are the ones trying to force opinions on me and not the other way around.

If you are looking for in depth discussion about philosophy or music you are doing it at the wrong place, this is a forum board. You don't need to back anything with anything if you don't feel like it. You know what you want and how you feel about certain things.

How you carry on with words like inferior, professional and the like just makes people bristle because you sound like an elitist (can I swear here?). You may not say what you like but you like to point out that everyone else's don't matter.

Because they really don't. Mine doesn't either. Art (which video games are) isn't created to placate or reinforce opinions. I'm offering perspectives and reasoning behind something, not opinions. If we just communally share opinions then that's a circle-j*rk, not discussion. I may use words like professional because that's what they are. I'm sorry the dictionary offends you. :p

" :P " Doesn't do anything. It actually makes you more condescending.

There is a way to present perspective and then there's being dismissive and narrow because we are not as learned as you are. You don't care for opinion and it shows. And yet all I hear from you are opinions.

You are not very popular from what I can see. Dial it back a bit. People are willing to argue their point when you are willing to accept their thoughts. I know what I circle jerk is and believe me, you haven't seen the real thing.

Art is an expression. It can't be explained by stating facts. One can look at an artwork and declare it to be a magnum opus. Another would say it's a bunch of ink blots. Both can be accepted as truth without giving reason. People will be divided not because of facts but because of tastes.

No, they aren't.


I don't exist to be popular or to be liked by people.


And this is where you are wrong :p I've explained multiple times the objective qualities of art, but nobody listens or is interested. You can't build art on opinions, trust me.

You are the ones attacking me, not the other way around. You are the ones accusing me of everything imaginable and I don't. I'm not condescending and, as you see, I'm happy to share my knowledge of art, I didn't invent it for you to be mad at me. I argue in quite a civil manner and I haven't attacked anyone, attack my arguments instead of throwing accusations.

Clearly, you are too sophisticated for your audience, Lacrymas.

From what I've seen, different cultures have different takes on what is art. And by cultures I'm including geeks, artists, etc. Because in my twisted view of the world, the word culture has a broader sense.

Now, why they differ is pretty simple: different brain wiring = different tastes, which in turn = different opinions.

Then comes science, which tries to put everything in a rational order. The trying to rationalize art, to me, is similar to trying to hold a blob of jelly with a sift.

These are all opinions, of course.


Now back to the original topic:

People have already said it and I'm just echoing them: Larian won't use swearing or sexuality in a manner that will break away from their own style. To understand what I mean by their style, well... play all their divinity games for that answer, I'm bad at explaining.

Everything I say comes from me (and my skills, knowledge etc.), I'm not some omniscient deity to know all the truth. I think it's pretty obvious that what I say is what I say. I don't think it's necessary to label it "opinion", if you don't agree with me, say why you don't and we can work from there. Attacking me and getting stuck on my word choice doesn't go anywhere.

Divine Divinity did have an area/brothel that the player could 'interact' with several outstanding members of the community, some even having kinks; all were voice acted too (though it was mostly simple being "turn off the lights", "Hey that's my girl," and something else).

It wasn't really a secret area because it was directly related to a quest that wasn't hard to figure out at all (talk to some guy down the street).

Well yes they have their style, but i would like it improved upon. Letｴs be honest here, some of their older games could use some improvements in some departments (even in atmosphere) and as much as i want to have their original humor in games i also want them to feel more "real" (i dont know a little darker not so sunny)

Too bad D:OS2 won't be more Adult. Witcher was a great game but even more awesome because of the sex.