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It can have imps drop swear words every other line. It can have scullery maids make tons of poop jokes... and the main villain can just drop a F-bomb after he is defeated.

But I might be, being unfair. How would you include a tasteful and impactful use of multiple F-Bombs in a Divinity game? Something that would maintain the general tone of the game, which is silly but not crass, and also maintain the integrity of whatever scene it is in?

Randomly, one thing I absolutely hate is the phrase "F-bomb". I'm not entirely sure why, and my random speculation might be at risk of sounding pejorative, but it really grates for some reason. I can understand "the F-word" in polite company, but generally speaking I'd rather people just quoted "fuck" in full, or "f*ck" at a push. "F-bomb" drives me nuts, though.

So actually, nobody is complaining about swearign at all but just about bad writing.
You know what? saying fuck is fully acceptable if its in context, everyone seems to be just complaining about bad use of it.

But thats not a topic about swearing as the same is true for any other dialogue.

Bad writing is bad because its bad, its not bad because of an "f-bomb"

I only like using the term F-Bomb when it is being used for shock. Basically it is to bring attention to how silly it is.



You are basically right.

Though I can't think of a way one can think of a context that would make tons of F-bombs work even if they were a writing genius.

But when you ask for swearing you aren't asking for there to be one or two swears like any good piece of fiction. You are asking for a LOT of swearing.

And if I have to make a simile swearing is like salt: a little sprinkle goes a long way, but heaping it on only hides how bad your writing is.

I don't agree with the simile.

I don't agree they should feel that they need to put in a little swearing because we like it. I just don't want them to shy away from it because they're too afraid to take themselves seriously.

Just keep it real.

Why don't you agree with it?

What I was trying to say is that you add salt to your food because you like your food salty.

You don't add swearing to a story because you like swearing in your story.

Swearing is something that naturally happens in the story. When it happens, you just leave it there. It shouldn't have to be "added" like there's some kind of swearing quota.

That wasn't exactly what I was trying to get at Ayvah

It was more that IF you use swearing... You don't cake it.

Not that every dish needs swearing.

I would love to see D:OSII have the similar language and sexuality as the first. It's one of the reasons I enjoy the first so much. It's clean, my kids (4 an 6) like to "help" me by suggesting things and I like knowing that if a surprise pops up, it's not going to be vulgar or sexual. I think a happy medium is make up their own vulgar words, the Wheel of Time book series did a great job of this.

Just my thoughts. I don't want to ruin it for anyone else, but would adding vulgarity and sex really add that much to the sequel?

In the case of Red Dwarf & Battlestar Galactica, is feck/frak really any different or is it just a sneaky way to get past the censors?

Wheel of Time is more creative with its slurs, but as far as I'm concerned swearing is swearing.

My wife speaks English as a second language (and Larian is not considering translating D:OS2 into Chinese). She can keep up with a story when it's in regular English, but if you add too much "flavour" then she's going to really struggle to follow what's happening.

I'm sure Larian will be brave enough to introduce same-sex relationships to D:OS2, and plenty of conservative parents will be disappointed that this doesn't suit their family values. I think many of us will have our own views about what is appropriate for our children.

Personally, I don't agree that keeping the violence and the immature sex jokes and avoiding mature swearing and sexuality makes the game any more appropriate for children.

"Kids" shouldn't be playing this game at all. And if you do let your kids play this game, you probably don't have conservative family values or are so detached from reality that you don't understand what your child is playing or don't care to check that it might not be okay for them.

The original game was rated M for mature by ESRB (17+), and PEGI 16 in euro countries. This means that people who play this game should be old enough to understand the concepts and terminology used in 'mature' conversation and material.

Ok, but let's be honest, game ratings are completely crazy. You get a M rating for something that would get a PG-13 if it was in a movie.

While I'm not bothered by cussing and nudity in video games I feel that it should be situational and appropriate.

Gratuitous sex scenes with no purpose other than nerdboy fodder (A la the first Witcher game) = no.

Sex scenes that show far too much for a video game when a simple fade to black or tasteful scene would have sufficed? (The Witcher 2, doggy style in the elven pool anyone?) = no.

Same with the cussing. While I agree that it makes a situation seem more real (I mean who, when stabbed in the foot, would say "Ah DARNIT!") I also feel that putting modern slang into an otherwise fantasy world is a bit weird. It's the one thing that stuck out to me in DA:I in fact.

Either way, a filter for cussing and option to skip nude or sexual scenes would be good settings options for people who prefer that. I would likely not use it but if it makes a great game enjoyable by even more people, why not!?

Thats right. I play the EE now. You face necromancers and blood magic. The sacred places of the sect are full of blood, guts, bodies, torture devices and so on. And most importantly, you kill hundrets of humanoid people in this game. D:OS is one of the best RPGs I know. But it is NOT for kids, even without swearing and sex. And D:OS2 will not be more kid friendly than the first game.

I think most people would be too busy yelling 'OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!' to say much else.

For the record, it would be nice if there were no vulgarity or sexuality in any of the games I play, but I also recognize it's an imperfect and flawed world we live in. I try to ignore the things I dislike, and focus on what I do like.

And let's not forget the moral panics (eg Super Bowl, Mass Effect) that the USA is fond of.