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Does oath increase bow Skill damage?
Does Ranged power stance increase bow skill damage? (it shows increase damage on the skill but after doing 20 shots with and without, I can't tell a difference)
Does Bully work against other effect than Knock down? What about Slow by Oil etc, or Stunned? Bleed?

Power Stances increase the damage of skills that scale of weapon damage. Shrapnel Scatter, for instance, does not receive the bonuses. Whereas Splintered Arrow and Ricochet does. Special arrows receive the bonus too.

Oath just flat out increases damage.

Bully only works with Knocked Down. As opposed to the Original-Original Sin.

The reason I asked about power stance is because of the test I ran

on the skill it sames 16-24 damage (without using power stance) and when I made 10 ricochet shot with it, it always fall into that damage range.

but when I use power stance, the damage in disciption goes to 20-29, but after doing 10 shots with it, the damage still falls into 16-24 range. Isn't it suppose to do damage not less than 20? and Should do at least a few damage that is above 24. But that isn't the case after I tested it, it falls exactly in the range of 16-24.

Can someone else run some test and confirm this? Is it bug or intended.

I don't have any hard numbers, but it definitely seemed like my skill damages were performing far lower than advertised, so you might very well be onto something.

Might be because it's physical damage and therefore gets reduced by enemy armour?

Same thing with Oath, the damage is just not close to what it describe on the skill description. If it is intended not to increase damage, I hope GM can just tell us straight on, not show us one number and run some other equation in the background

Armor reduction is reported. You see Xdamage (Yabsorbed). You should be able to combine the two numbers and have a result that's somewhere in the appropriate range.

Ok, give me 15-30 mins I will run a test.

Testing condition:

8 Dex toon, 16-24 damage crossbow (starting crossbow)
Against first engagement in game, 3 skeleton facing front (ignoring the 2 bowman at the back)
Note that the bow skeleton in front has resistance and takes low damage

10 sets Ricochet shots are taken, With Stance, with Oath and with nothing.

Here's result !!!

Average damage

Nothing
Display Damage (16-24)
Actual average damage 13 / 19.8 / 19.7

With Stance
Display Damage (20-29)
Actual average damage 12.8 / 18.1 / 18.2

With Oath
Display Damage (23-34)
Actual average damage 13 / 17.4 / 18.5


SO BASICALLY Power Stance and OATH addes no damage at all to Ricochet SHOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is definitely a bug then. Either the display damage is wrong, or the calculation for damage is wrong.

Now more question.... What about effect on splinter shot... What about damage from leadership Aura ..... They can be all a illusion with no actual benefit... haha

I noticed that Crippling Blow was always hitting a lot lower than the displayed damage as well. Honestly I don't know what affects what anymore.

Some of the tooltips are definitely not updated in the enhanced edition. For example, when you take Glass Cannon your AP breakdown still says "x2 glass cannon" instead of +4 like it should. Little things like that show that not everything was updated in sync.

The now-Marksman "Absorb the Elements" skillbook still says it is dependant on Witchcraft and requires INT for improvement. There clearly were a few oversights when they moved things around for sure!

Thats some interesting tests, by the way. I'll try and run some of my own later. I don't remember whether the pratice targets have resistances or something, I'll have a look.

Are we sure that 'Absorb the Elements' shouldn't be Witchcraft, and the skill classification isn't the problem? I'm just not sure if it fits the flavor of a marksman as much as Witchcraft or other eldritch magic. Or, did Larian say that it was definitely Marksman now?

Jarun