Larian Studios Forums Divinity - Original Sin Divinity - Original Sin - Enhanced Edition Is Crawling Infestation bugged?

Or is it supposed to be removed completely by Frozen? It's made it practically useless.

I'm not sure what the deal is with Crawling Infestation.

My friend got it on one of our playthroughs, and we tested it out. I had to use Drain Willpower and Soulsap on an enemy so that it wouldn't succeed at a Body Building saving throw, then my friend used Crawling Infestation.

I froze the enemy, and two turns went by. Then my friend used Divine Light to lower the enemy's Body Building again so that he wouldn't saving throw out of Crawling Infestation. I stunned the enemy for two more turns, and after those two turns, when the enemy became unstunned, the spiders came out of him. During that whole time, it had shown under the enemy's status effects: "Crawling Infestation: 3 Turns". The turn count never decreased, and it actually took like five turns instead of three for it to take effect.

We then reloaded a save and he chose another skill to get instead of Crawling Infestation.

Seriously, most useless skill in the game, by far. First of all, it takes at least three turns and has a Body Building saving throw, but the most turns you can lower Body Building for is 2, so unless you do:

(1) Drain Willpower
(2) Soulsap
(3) Crawling Infestation
(4) Freeze / Stun
(5) Pass
(6) Pass
(7) Divine Light
(8) Freeze / Stun
(9) Pass
(10) Pass

...the enemy will just saving throw out of it anyway. It has such a low chance to proc, even with high Dexterity, that the only way you can guarantee success with a relatively high chance is to waste three debuff skills, two CC skills, one master Scoundrel skill, and like four turns of waiting, all on a single enemy. Keep in mind that this skill basically has a 0% chance to succeed unless you have a Witchcraft mage with Drain Willpower and Soulsap, but if you have a Witchcraft mage, just do Drain Willpower and Rapture instead of wasting nine more turns of useful skills just to take down one enemy.

I dunno WTF they were thinking, this skill is the epitome of uselessness.

I actually came back just to cover how absolutely horribly bad Crawling Infestation is, saw you post and.. yeah. It's really horrifically bad.

The range is terrible, it fails all the time, anything and everything seems able to remove it if it if you manage to put it on an enemy, it can only be used once per combat (even if it fails!) and.. that's really it.

There's a lot of questionable changes with Enhanced Edition, but Crawling Infestation has to be the shittiest thing out of all the new additions. I have no idea what they were thinking.

For what it's worth, in my mod Scales I buffed the application chance to 125% and made the status decrease movement speed by 50% and damage by 30%, so even if it doesn't go through, it has a good effect. Haven't actually used it yet, but theoretically it should be much better. Does that sound like it goes far enough (assuming it actually functions correctly, isn't purged by other statuses, actually kills after 3 rounds, etc)?

Honestly, I still probably wouldn't use it lol

I mean, who knows, I actually might... all the other Scoundrel skills are terrible, so it might be the only one worth using it if had those effects.

What does the result look like when it succeeds?

The enemy disappears, and blood appears on the ground with some small, bloody spiders. They don't do anything, though.

Crawling Infestation works but it is not very useful, the range is very short, the AP cost is ridiculously high and it takes 3 or 4 turns to go through if not walked off by the enemy. But if it goes through, the infected enemy instantly dies and out of its corpse come 2-3 spiders, which join you in battle and that is actually pretty good but the chance for this to happen is really low.