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If you think I was actually thanking you then your reading comprehension is quite lacking as well. See, we can both do this back and forth focusing on a few words of a post to pick apart and ignore the real issues being talked about. Lets try some reading comprehension on your wall of fluff.



Cool! There is stuff between between a game working for me and a game not working for me! My response : The game did not work for me for 5 months because of bugs. I don't care if it worked for anyone else. I paid $60 for the game on release day and was screwed. I have no interest in continuing my extremely frustrating experience with this game. I will however keep posting here when I see someone else experiencing game ending bugs so that they have an idea of the long wait in store for them. Your "no eta for a patch" response is very weak.



Ok well first of all my reading comprehension tells me you probably made a mistake in that first statement. I DO NOT feel I am being unreasonable. You go on to tell me I should look at myself... I had nothing to do with the shitty state this game was released in. To even suggest that anything having to do with the bugs in this game was directly related to anything I posted in these forums is ignorant. If you think my criticism is exaggerated or full of hyperbole then you need to find a different job. I wasn't able to play the game for the first 5 months it was released. What about that do you not get? How is that exaggerated? You sir are the one ignoring facts and reality.



God forbid I gave up on a game after waiting five months after purchase. If I simply wanted to play the game I paid for why could I not play it for 5 months? You act like my game stopped working and the very next day I went ballistic. I gave your company FIVE MONTHS to make this $60 game playable and you failed and I gave up.


You know what? Who cares about the rest of your fluffy wall of text. I don't have the energy for your condescending essay.

No, that was your entire post, with nothing else but the related sarcasm in that reply.



"You make us feel like we are the unreasonable ones..."



I in no way suggested that.



In that particular case, it wasn't a huge exaggeration, but technically you could actually play the game after the first patch, albeit not for long before running into another problem. I was referring more to things like claiming that saying something would be fixed in a future patch was the same reply as saying Focus had the patch and it was going through the submission process, rejection of any explanations of the normal testing and patch procedures for games because only your experience matters, saying the game wasn't tested at all, ignoring the possibility of bugs being introduced late in the development process or being rare and not occurring during testing, etc.



I think you gave up a little before then, but I was replying specifically to "...when we simply want to play the game we paid for."

So does this mean you are sending me my $60?

Dear Raze,

you are great man, helpfull comunity coordinator and skilled moderator. Would you please stop feeding those trolls?

I know that "Troll toll." is tempting. I know that ignite their rage is soo good feeling. I do it occasionally too. But well, Its clear that few of these monsters fully unleashed could a spoil the forum.


Thank you for your endless support,
gG

Do you mean this topic, that died 3 days ago, and even the OP abandoned to check on a followup in a different topic?

While I probably replied more than I needed to, they were not primarily directed at the self described troll. Nor was I trying to be provocative; if anything I thought there might possible be an outside chance of getting through with reason.

And what reason would that be? You think it is reasonable for me to wait 5 months for a $60 game to be playable?

Believe it or not I was a fan of this game for the first two weeks the game was actually playable. I know... this game was playable for about 24 hours after the first patch until the next game ending bug was encountered (I'm simply throwing this part in to avoid your inevitable "but technically you could actually play the game after the first patch" crap). You simply forced me to be a troll with all the posts trying to poke holes in everything I said. Bottom line, this game didn't work and I was voicing my frustrations. You couldn't handle me telling others about MY experience with this game. Now I'm the bad guy and Larian still has my $60.

You specifically asked how you were exaggerating with that statement, and I answered and said that was not what I was referring to, but of course you ignored the rest and are pretending like it is something I randomly brought up.

I never had any objection to you telling others your experience with the game. I pointed out facts and corrected inaccurate statements. Saying that a statement that a bug will be fixed in a future patch is the same answer as saying the publisher has the patch and it is going through the submission process is not in any way your experience with the game. It is inaccurate at best. Pointing that out did not make you a troll. The vast majority of posters do not consider the truth to be a harsh restriction.

Dude I don't even know what you are talking about. Maybe you are stuck on one statement that I posted months ago that you misread and tried to correct me. I really don't know.

Let me break this down to you from someone who simply bought a game on release day and tried to enjoy your game.

Bought the Game
Played Two Weeks
Game Ending bugs for... not even going to try to give a time estimate because you will most definitely try to correct me and claim I'm not telling the truth
Game Patched
PLay for 24 hours
Game Ending bugs... again the time estimate thing
Game Patch
Game Ending Bugs... a long time
I Quit The Game In Frustration... 5 months in
Game Patch-- who cares at this point

So you can go ahead and fill in what the exact bugs were and what you said about patch release dates. To me... the person who paid money for this game, all I know is the game did not play because of bugs. It's as simple as that. I don't care what specific bug was making the game unplayable at any certain time. To me it was just BUGS the entire time. Do you get it yet, Raze?

So does the problem I reported stem from crafting or trading a lot of stuff, because that is what I read from a post that was from a while ago,and if this is indeed the case ,then Im sure the fix will be doing less of that which will suck but hopefully work as a temporary solution.

If the programmer this is assigned to has determined what the cause of the problem is, he has not commented on the support issue.

Well I had to get another game due to Larian inefficiency to fix the game so that I may finish it. You know I now agree with what some have said about this company being incompetent by selling us consumers a product filled with bugs,inaccuracies,and problems. Rather than fix those problems ,which should have taken presidence presidence over anything else!!! , Larian decided to begin working on a sequel to this Awesome but problematic game. How do you have the audacity to support an unfinished product and begin working on a second part, without the first part being tested and perfected and then released for sale and from a quite healthy kickstarter funding also (which should have MORE than covered cost of de-bugging and problem solving!!!) Help me understand PLEASE !!! Believe me when I say that I am excited and can't wait for DOS 2 but JESUS man I also want to finish DOS 1 first!!!!! I friggin LOVE that game Look dude I am even ready to procure a gaming computer if DOS 2 isn't released for consoles!!!!! Not one time have you heard me ask for my 60 bones back and nor will you!!! NO matter how much you hear me CATERWAUL, about this awesome game I will not ask for my loot back EVER !!!!! All I ask for or want out of this is for Larian to finish the patch so I can finish the game??? Please ask them to speed up the process of a NEW patch!!! thanks

Why Don't you respond???

To what? A question yesterday about something I said Monday I would check on next week?

You did ?/?I must of forgot

Hey raze, did you get a chance to check on a new patch update yet???

Yes, I discussed the issue with a producer who would be involved in any updates, and there is no ETA for the next patch.

So basically now I am out 60 dollars and left with an unplayable buggy piece of crap poor excuse for a game. I guess Jpaul76 had it right you guys at Larian got our money and now you don't give a shit!!! I suppose now it is time to get even, and let everyone know that Larian doesn't care less about customer satisfaction and only wanted our hard earned cash for an unfinished product that you can't even play til the ending because of issues bugs and technical inaccuracies which make the product UNPLAYABLE and definitely warrant a feeling of thievery to the greatest degree. How can they NOT update the patch to this game in which they already have made millions on,to instead worry about working on DOS2 which isn't even released yet??? They need to make fixing thegame ending issues on THIS game their NUMBER 1 PRIORITY !!!!! STOP trying to develop part 2 when part 1 for SOME people isn't even working?????

DayVlad73, I can't really blame you for being optimistic that the game would soon be fixed for you. I was also at one time a fan of this game and was hopeful that the developers could fix their mistakes. I was wrong. While I'm not happy that you were also screwed out of $60 I am honestly relieved that someone else finally sees my point of view and the bullshit this company is putting some of its paying customers through.

Raze, I have one question that I have repeatedly asked and you have yet to answer. How long do you think is acceptable for a paying customer to wait to actually be able to play this $60 piece of shit? It's been 6 months since release. Man up and help your customers instead of constantly trying to prove them wrong.

Hey Jpaul76 here is the thing thing, they went right on to develop DOS2 when they should iron out EVERY nook and cranny with DOS!!!!! Before this occurred , I absolutely adored this game to the maximum capacity and believed it to be one of the most masterfully created RPGs or games for all that matters,of all time!!!. However; I can no longer praise a game in which I can't complete. Most certainly I will not honor Larian as a reputable company when they indeed endeavour to release insipid drek, without first putting customer satisfaction at the very top of their priority list, and instead are overtly concerned with quantity rather than quality. I also have been made to wait for a particularly lengthy time increment and told by raze to send my save files to them and told he would have a programmer look into it.....this was a while ago. Just recently he told me that again, only THIS TIME he said the programmer told him NO expected TBA??? MAYBE there WOULD be a NEW patch if they would put ALL of their programmers to WORK on the problem that we keep writing about and STOP working on DOS2!!!!! Perhaps then a solution would magically appear. Ill tell you what though,to do that isn't worth it to THEM, to fix an ongoing problem isn't worth the effort and time it would take to nullify the problem and satisfy two customers. That is the truth of the matter.

DayVlad73;

Not having an ETA for a patch does not mean there is not going to be a patch. There are a small number of people affected by serious issues (which doesn't make fixing those issue any less important). For PS4, the main remaining issue (with the inventory/trading) has been fixed. In general there are a couple other reported issues that have not been reproduced, and one where the problem was found and last I heard the best way to implement a fix was still being investigated (for a rare issue where environmental status effects could become permanent) and some (relatively speaking) minor issues.

Before I talked to the producer I told you repeatedly there was no ETA for the next update. After, there was still no ETA, but I did bring up the issue. Even if that got the producer to take another look at the outstanding issues (which it did), that would not instantly give an ETA.

Even if the programmers focused just on the EE, that would not stop development of D:OS 2. The writers not writing wouldn't do anything for the EE. Scripters and level designers, etc, hired to work on D:OS 2 who don't know the tools and procedures are not going to be very helpful with the EE, etc.
Programmers also have various experience and expertise. Any particular programmer is not necessarily going to be able to help working with code or game systems which they are not familiar with.



JPaul76;

If you wanted an answer, you would have actually read my previous replies. Previous answers, though, were apparently 'making excuses', anything not about you was irrelevant and correcting inaccurate statements was 'picking them apart'.