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Hi Larian,



To begin, i'm french,so i apologize for my bad english, but i will try to do my best to write Something you can understand without too much difficulty.

I am playing the game DIVINITY ORIGINAL SIN – ENHANCED EDITION , buyed on steam. A about 3-4 months ago, an updated with the lastest version of the game.
And i played this game during more than 350 hours, without any problems, or bugs, and i really loved thisgame ! (but of course, i will never play a game during so many hours, if a don’t like it, 😊 ! )

But, since a few days, i have on the game a new bug, that i never had before.

I try to explain it the best possible i can.

1/ it began for the first time when i tryed to speak to a NPC trader (a man who trade and sell some item, in the second town of the game). I never happend in Cyseal. The game crashed, and returned to Windows. And since this time ; the game do this more often, with different PNJ trader. But not always the same.

2/ i tryed to play an other past save , and the game did it again, again with different traders, but not always the same, and some of the traders always works without any problems.

3/ sometimes, the traders works correctly when i buy some items, but when they have new gold, and new item the next time, this time the game crash. So it’s very Strange, and i really don’t understand why, and what to do.

4/ i read on the web, that may be, it is because i craft too much, or that is because i buyed, or had too much items, and that there is a limit with that on this game. It seems to be very Strange, but it could be exlain that on my game, because in effect, i craft a lot, a lot, and a lot of item to sell them. And after 350 hours of game, it would be very possible that i had do this limit of item maximum. ((if it is really a bug that exist)..
==> If this bug could be because of the fact i crafted to much before, will it run without bug, if i play with a past save, and stop to craft? or what do you think i should do with this past save, to have more chance to don't have this crash again? stop buy to much items? stop sell them? craft them? try to keep less items into containers like chest?
I can't replay all the game, since the beginning because after so many hours (about 350hours), i really don't want to replay all the things i havd alrealy done :S.


So i write to you to ask you for help, and to know what to do to can continue to play this ery good game ? I really hope that you will read me, and answer me, because i’m totally lost now, and i don’t know what to do at all, to fix this crash.
Whit a last save, it seems to works during a few time, but it happens again very quickly again.I have more than 100 different saves on this game, but i can’t test all of them, and each time replay all the things i had already do, again, and again, to see if the crash happns again, or not.

Could you try to help me, and say me what to do ?


I would be so glad if you have a solution, or a way to play again without having this crash.
I’m so afraid to never discover the end of this game i like so much.

I always liked the game of the company larian. I always have respect for your company, because you do great game, and interesting RPG, and respect the customers. So i really trust you to take care about this bug-crash, and to try to fix it.

I say thank you sincerely , and waiting for may be an answer.
With all my respect, i wish you a very good day. :)

Really Thanks a lot, David

That is a known issue, where the game can run out of handles for generating items. Reverting to an older save and avoiding too much crafting and selling items to NPC can help, but unfortunately there isn't really any way to tell how far back would be safe, since you wouldn't be able to avoid crafting and trading completely and items would still need to be generated.

To begin, thanks a lot for your answer !!

But if i understand well, you say that in any case, this bug will happen soon or later again, and that ther is Nothing i can do to avoid it?
(may be i understand bad because of my poor English, and so sorry for that, and to ask again, but it's to be sure to undertand well).
Because, if it's really that, i'm really disapointed to read that, because it meens that i can stop the game now, because i will never have a chance to finish it .

i replay a save far away soon in my game, and tryed to buy really less items, to craft only items with good gold value, or very useful, but i am only in the forest of luculla, so i have so mayn things to discover, and to do in the game, that i will have to buy some items sometimes for sure, and soon or later i will reach the limit :S.

Why Larian don't do a patch to fix it, if it is a known issue? is it a really difficult thing to fix, or to "do" for devellopers? (may be yes, i don't know). But this studio is a very serioux one ot my opinion, they use to take care of players, and act to "repair" bugs in their game usually. so it is sad that this one have a bug who can stop players in the middle of their game.

i really don't know what to do now.
=stop the game, and never play it again? == so sad
=wait for a patch , may be a day? does it really exist a day? and will it really fix this bug or sure?
=never buy, craft, or sell anything in the game. never, never == does it really works and makes me sure to can play the game until the end, with no crash for sure? if yes, and if speak only one time to each NPCs to see if they have a quest is possible. frustrating, but ok pissible, if it's really a way to avoid the game to generate new items (if i understand well).
= or an other solution ?


please, if you have an advice to help me, or if in understand bad (badly?) your answer because of my bad english, you would be so nice, and cool to explain me what i should do to have the best chance to play without having to much chance to continue and finish the game.

really, REALLY thanks to you to read me, i know i don't speak well, but i really try to di my best, and respect your language. and your help is really usefull for me, believe it. because i was really lost with that crash, and didn't know what to do, where to write, or where search for any advice, or solutions.
So be sure , you makes someone happy during the time you spent to read my message, and answer to it !

And in any case, i will continue to trust in larian to do great game, because it's the first time i am disapointed, after play to all the divinity since divine divinity . everybody make a mistake a day, it happens. but i will continue to hope they could fix it a day. they would be very nice indeed to fix that .

thank you rage. sincerely!

You can not completely avoid new items being generated, but you can limit that by not unnecessarily crafting or selling items to NPCs.

The issue is how far back you need to revert in order to not run into this problem again during the rest of the game. That would depend on how close you are to the end of the game, and when you did most of the crafting and selling.
If you are close to the end of the game, and do crafting and selling in batches, maybe going back before the last session of that would avoid the problem. If you are not very close to the end, and relatively frequently craft and trade, then it would be harder to guess how far back would give a reasonable chance of finishing the game without running into this again.

Unfortunately, the counter for the item handles is already at the maximum possible for how it is used in the code and stored in the data. That will be changed in D:OS 2, but it isn't feasible to do so for D:OS.

ThanKs a lot RAZE.

Of course, i don't like your answer because it's a bad news, but i really like that you spent some time to answer me, an try to explain me so well what happen and why. it really help me, and that show the respect of larian studio that don't let players with problem without try to answer them.

I tryed to replay on a save 75 hours before, before a very long session of craft, and now i will craft only when i will need some items, instead of crafting to win a lot of gold like before (i had win more than 200 000 gold).
Sure i'm dissapointed that there isn't any chance to fix that bug. But i'm happy to know that larian will fix it for the next game. And your message help me to know better what to do to avoid it. i understand better in your last message, so thanks for that. Your answer was fast, and you did your best to help me, so i really say thank you ( i don't know other word to say it, so sorry to say a lot of time thanks lol, but you deserve it ! ).

And an other good thing is that i could explain that on french forum too, to help others french players to avoid this bug during their game. because i've never heard speaking about that before having this crash. and sure, what you explain to me, will help some others players. because if i knew that at the beginning of my game, "i could avoided" it more easily for sure.

And the last thing, is that when a studio like larian really try to help players when they have bug, or problems, that help us to continue to trust the devellopers, and continue to buy the next game later. There's no solution, but i respect the fact you said it sincerely to know the true, and have a answer , instead of staying lost alone, and don't know what to do, and continue to search on the web for Nothing.
So respect, and thanks for that too !

And this is the end of all my long messages, lol. I let you in peace now, and i will try to follow your advice ^^.