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Originally Posted by Seelenernter
I don't put a plank, a nail and a hammer beside eachother on a table and start praying so it may hammer itself in.
No, if I want to drive a nail into said plank, then I friggin take the nail put it where I want it, take the hammer and then get going. The old system symbolized that a lot better, imho.

I'm reminded of being able to make mashed potato with a hammer. In fact now that I've reminded myself of that I should do it IRL with tonight's dinner: we've an appropriately-shaped lump hammer in the shed I can use.

Though I may get told off.


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ROFL yes mashing a raw potato with a hammer let us all know how it goes smile

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Save it until you get some levels -- higher quality mash.

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Originally Posted by vometia
Originally Posted by Seelenernter
I don't put a plank, a nail and a hammer beside eachother on a table and start praying so it may hammer itself in.
No, if I want to drive a nail into said plank, then I friggin take the nail put it where I want it, take the hammer and then get going. The old system symbolized that a lot better, imho.

I'm reminded of being able to make mashed potato with a hammer. In fact now that I've reminded myself of that I should do it IRL with tonight's dinner: we've an appropriately-shaped lump hammer in the shed I can use.

Though I may get told off.


Wait... You don't use a hammer for that? I'm confused... think
(would've been the even better hilarious example ^^)
But ye, I definately dislike that inconvenient 1001 menu stuff.

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I like the simple and humoristic style of crafting in the original. You could make good stuff, and you could make a lot of funny stuff, and there was some sort of internal logic that made a kind of "DOS sense". No a hammer and leather do not make a boot, but I don't think an elaborate system involving all the tools you actually need for maing shoes would make the experience of crafting a shoe in this game any better.
Sometimes simplicity is a good thing. With a simple system we can have more recepies. smile

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Originally Posted by Skallewag
I like the simple and humoristic style of crafting in the original. You could make good stuff, and you could make a lot of funny stuff, and there was some sort of internal logic that made a kind of "DOS sense". No a hammer and leather do not make a boot, but I don't think an elaborate system involving all the tools you actually need for maing shoes would make the experience of crafting a shoe in this game any better.
Sometimes simplicity is a good thing. With a simple system we can have more recepies. smile


Humor in crafting is all well and good but be consistent the issue with the DOS crafting system is you can craft a boot but not a glove you need a kit for a ring but not a suit of armor. The ingredients are not intuitive because they don't put any logic into the thinking behind crafting. In this section someone mentioned making mash potatoes with a hammer, all right i can get behind the humor of that but make it a boiled potato to make mash potatoes first not a raw potato and then cook it. This is only logic they don't need to add more steps to the crafting system to at least add some logic only change the recipes a bit.

For example if you take an axe to a log you should make some smaller logs lets call these wooden branches fitting into the current name of items in the game and some wood chips. Then you take the axe to those branches you should make some wooden sticks and some more wood chips. Refine those wood sticks with a knife and you would get some wood chips and an arrow shaft. Logic would dictate that be the order of a break down for a wooden log using the names they put on things already in the game.

Currently the recipe goes wooden log equals two wooden branches and wood chips and that is the end of the crafting chain.

If you want comedy crafting there is nothing wrong with it but lets talk about the pumpkin helmet really quickly. So for DOS 2 you want comedy so you keep the crafting of the pumpkin helmet lets keep it more realistic even there you carve the Jako-lantern face into a pumpkin and open it up pulling out the guts knife + Pumpkin should equal a raw Jacko-lantern then require it be baked before being worn as a helmet not to stiffen the material but because if you put a raw Jako-lantern on your head it would fill disgusting leave things in your hair and smell gross as well. Logic even in comedy crafting can apply with minimal recipe changes.

I'm not saying they need to make a multi stage crafting system either just use some amount of logic when it comes to the ingredients which you are combining I would be happy if they made the recipe for boots animal hide plus a wooden branch. At least I can get there in my mind of what my character is doing to make the boot. using leather scraps and an anvil????? I can't make it there what is he doing to make the boot? laying leather on the anvil and rubbing it back and forth? slapping it against the anvil until it ends up in the relative shape of a boot? pounding it with a hammer until its in the shape of a boot? Get what I am saying?

Even if they made it scraps of leather and a needle and thread it would make more sense maybe he is making a boot like a moccasin I could buy that and then make leather armor animal hide and a needle and thread because there is no way you could make leather armor that was worth anything out of a 1/2 lb of leather scraps and a needle and thread. I am merely asking the devs to think before implementing the full crafting system in the game.

I really don't care what they come up with as long as it is better than the first one in terms of intuitive crafting. especially since crafting books just like in the first one are random loot and random vendor items. I am also asking them to make sure if you can craft one piece of armor you can craft all pieces of armor and all weapon types. Not just you can craft this but not this because we don't feel like putting that in the game.

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I have honestly almost completely ignored the crafting system in both games, which tells you all you need to know about what I think of the crafting system in this series, an entirely pointless feature.

I wouldn't even know how to go about making it fun and useful, feels odd even including it in this type of game tbh.

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I would like an improved crafting system, in the sense that it has a lot more recipes.

I also like that some stuff you can craft in D:OS is really crazy and unrealistic. In contrast, I think crafting in Skyrim was somewhat more realistic but it seemed boring and complicated so I didn't bother with it.

In my opinion the recently added crafting menu was unnecessary, old system was simple, faster and better.

You should also have in mind that some people would never bother with crafting, while for some others is a big part of the game. There is a lot of people who enjoy micromanagement and for that kind of person crafting alone could become a game in itself.




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Originally Posted by Fastel
I am also asking them to make sure if you can craft one piece of armor you can craft all pieces of armor and all weapon types. Not just you can craft this but not this because we don't feel like putting that in the game.

Originally Posted by Sotomonte

I would like an improved crafting system, in the sense that it has a lot more recipes.


+1, recipes for at least all the slots/weapontypes and also some gimmick stuff please...

Originally Posted by Sotomonte
You should also have in mind that some people would never bother with crafting, while for some others is a big part of the game. There is a lot of people who enjoy micromanagement and for that kind of person crafting alone could become a game in itself.


Include me, can't help it - have to craft 'everything', really like it...

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