Larian Studios Forums General Chat X2: the movie (possible spoilers)

okay, i just saw the movie- OH MY GOD was it awesome!!
i just wanted to open up a thread for discussion about the movie.
anybody else see it yet?

nope, I hope they still play it in juliy, but I doubt it

i'm gonna see it tonight with some friends <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
i heard it was great so.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Excellent, I reckon I may see it tonight post-work then. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

yeah do that, come with me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Seen it on the weekend.... it was a bang allright...
I could only get this front row seat that night... and man my neck was sore...
nevertheless ... a lot better than the first one...

I wish they go into more details but yet i still need to spend like almost one hour after the movie to explain few stuff to my friends (they're not very familiar with the comic)...
but anyway, they have 2 choices really to go into more details to satisfy the comic fans or to attract new ppl...
they made their choice.

Nightcrawler was superb
Still no Gambit.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />

hmm, i loved gambit <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Allright JVB. What time? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

well, we go on the bike, i go and pick up a friend of mine @ 20:15 (dutch time) so if you are here @ 20:00 it will be ok <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I may be a little late. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

why <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Its a long way to fly. Unless you can pick me up? Have your wings matured yet?

that first scene with nightcrawler was possibly one of the coolest fight scenes i have ever seen.
i had to explain quite a bit to my boyfriend- who hadn't even seen the first movie, let alone know much about the characters!
gambit has always been one of my favorites, too. i did notice though- when mystique was looking through the computer files of mutants, the one name i caught was remy lebeau. so maybe next movie, we will have a gambit. maybe they're too afraid to screw him up, since he's probably one of the most popular x-men. they just better get the accent and the attitude right, or i'll be pissed. and he better be cute, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
what did you think of colossus' cameo?

hey... colossus never been my fav character... but he still rocks in X2...
did u check how he transform into steel... man... in the comics they never show how exactly colossus transform ... but wathcing that just gave me the goosebumps... (mean its good... not the scary goosebumps)

yea... i catch Remy LeBeau.... Jamie Madrox was there too... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
there're lots of those small details that they put... might be meaningless if you're not familiar with the comics ....

yeah, that was awesome. and siryn was funny. i really wish they'd do more with jubilee and shadowcat, instead of just non-speaking parts.

Ooooh.... so that was syrin...
hey... and who's the kid with blue tongue....???

i couldn't figure that one out... or the kid who didn't sleep and changed channels by blinking...

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVEEEEDDDD the movie, definetely one of the best I've ever seen

nice special FX and the story was good to. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
Loved Wolverine and Jean.

Say, is anyone suspecting an X3, because I am and a friend (who knows more about the X-men story) says that an important part is about to be told.... if X3 is gonna be produced. I sure as hell can't wait

all new mutants i guess..

i saw the movie yesterday and it indeed was great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
i think that there will be an X3, and that phoenix will play a large part in it (you know, the flamy bird underwater in the last scene)

Just like to make this short by saying that I totally agree with all the stuff faile said...

2 there wont be any gambit until wolverine has his issues worked out...so probably the next one...

3 I want to be the kid that can do the blinking thing cuz that was so cool....uber lazy....

4 Does anyone remember what happens to jean gray....its been a long time and I dont remember....I want to know..PM me if anyone objects to hearing....

i know i know <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />:D

i wont tell everything, but if you looked closer the last scene....

you saw something underwater..
if you wanna know more you pm me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

besides, why do you thing gambit will only come then??

the one other thing that bugs me about the movie is that they gave rogue jubilee's deal with wolverine. know what i mean? it was always jubilee that was wolverine's little buddy, not rogue. then when gambit comes, i bet he and rogue won't fall in love because she's dating iceman, and she's like, 16. gambit will have to be an adult. if he's not, i'll shoot somebody. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
and i think gambit may be in the third (which there definitely will be a third, viper. they set it up perfectly for the next), because everybody wants him in the movies. i don't think he'd be that hard to do, his power is easily animated. if they can do cyclops, the can do gambit. his eyes might be hard though.

i heard the director only watched the cartoon before making the first one. for this one he actually read some comics. maybe thats why the first one sucked.

who wants to bet that soon there will be a wolverine movie?

this one was nearly a wolverine movie to.
he did play an imporant part <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

he has always been one of the most important characters. so mysterious, and stuff.

yet, at least on the cartoon he was (i havent seen the first movie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> )

what?? why not?

I though I saw something in the water in the end. anyway, I don't know much about the story, but let's just hope for an X3

i heard the first movie wasn't too good.
or am i wrong??

it was ok, nowhere near as good as the second, but i still would see it. explains a few things about the second.

like what?

Why is everyone bagging the first movie? I thought it was great.

X-2 is even better though. I went and saw it opening night (Whee). Im about to go see it again in about 20 minutes, gold class this time, so I get a big comfy chair and free popcorn and drinks (Yay).

Im a little prejudice with the movies because I love Wolverine, read Wolverine comics but not much X-Men. Besides Hugh Jackman does such a good job (And he's an Aussie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ).

How cool was Magneto's escape from prison? ("Bad Gandalf, BAD Gandalf *Wags finger*").

I cant wait to see X-3...............a friend says he wants me to read something called Dark Pheonix first so maybe I will.

Anyway, great film and Im looking forward to seeing it again (Actually I having problems sitting still while I wait for my ride) Wheeee *Bounces off the walls*

I agree the first was very good and was necessary to explain the second. The only reason I say gambit wont come until Wolverine gets his stuff worked out is because Wolv is a darkhorse char...like faile said mysterious...Gambit is also that kind of character...a hard ass...a problem with people....and sorry faile but I dont think theyll bring in Jubilee...not unless they get to X12 or so....just isnt enough time for them to bring in all the characters

Even the way it is they havent really fully fleshed out some of the characters as well as they could have. They probably dont want to add to many more to the mix. I hope Gambit will be in 3. I think with Jubilee they just kind of mixed her and Rogue together (Rogues power, jubilee's attitude) as one character.

say, are there books of x-men or only comics??

viper- there's probably some good graphic novels.... i don't think theres any books, though. at least i haven't seen any.

mandrake- definitely read dark phoenix, but you should get all the background on normal phoenix too. i think hugh does a great job too. and i liked the first one, but i didn't think it was anything too great. and x2 blew the first off the map.

nero- i think you're right about jubilee. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> i'd be happy if they just showed jubeilee using her power. yay, fireworks!

here's another thought i had-
remember the white wolf that led wolverine into the lake place in the beginning? didn't that shapeshifter chick from alpha flight use a wolf form?
hmmm...

clever girl you are faile <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

thank you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

hey the movie definately rocked...

and *possible spoiler*

but you all know who Jean becomes when... well... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

i'll leave it at that, as to not spoil for those who haven't seen the movie.
but what a great movie it was, for sure. and X3 is definately on it's way.
to be honest, i think as long as people continue to watch those movies, they'll
continue to make them. ya never know, we might even get to see a Jubilee even
if it is in an X12 movie lol, just keep going and they'll keep making them, i think...

i hope <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

lets hope the movies aren't crap by then! too much of one thing can make it not good anymore... or something like that.

very true, but as long as they dont get too repetitive...

they could always change the focal point of the movies...

as for now it seems to be mainly wolverine, but as everyone seems to love Gambit so much, they could change the focus on him, or even on Cyclops for the next movie (though i think Cyclops is an overall poor character in the movies, thus far) seeing as how X2's closing shot were... well... again... no spoilers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

cyclops sucks, has always sucked, and will forever suck.

they should make at least 2 more.
but they shouldn't ruin it by "milking it out".

yes faile, wolverine and gambit rule his ass <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

i'd say what i really thought of him, but all you'd see is a bunch of censored words. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I saw the movie yesterday. Was totally blown away. The first one was good, but I was afraid the series might progress down the same path the Batman and Superman movie series did and get too weird. Now my fears have been removed and I want an X3. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />


Let me start by saying I am a huge, huge, X-Men fan and have been reading and collecting their comics for 10 years or so. I have all of the comics in the Uncanny X-Men series from about issue 97 on. And Issue 100 was the transition to Phoenix. They changed that around in later issues, though, explaining her transformation somewhat differently. I have the tradepaper back of the Dark Phoenix Saga so I can reread it and not have to get the comics themselves out. That, and the Days of Future Past sage that followed, are some of my favorite storylines. The classic Chris Claremont/ John Byrne days at Marvel. And to those who said they "Saw something in the water at the end." that was a reflection of something above the water. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I also wish Shadowcat and Jubliee had had speaking parts as well. Jubliee is known for her being Logan's friend, but Kitty Pride was as well. When they showed those tunnels it made me think of the Morlocks and wonder of those would be shown. So many mutants, so little time. I was glad Storm had more of a part in this one and showed more of her power. I adore Nightcrawler and he was perfect. The showing of Hank McCoy on TV was a cute addition, too. Someone mentioned Alpha Flight? My goodness, not many people remember them now. I think you meant Snowbird. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Gambit would be nice, but so would Angel, Psylocke( how cool would her psychic knife look if they used the older version of her? ), and many others. Too many mutants, not enough time again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

The kid with the tongue is Artie. He was never shown much but was mentioned a few times in the comics based around Jubliee and her days in Emma Frost's school(silly defective memory won't recall the name of that comic title since there are so many and they all have changed titles.). Although Artie was depicted as having luminious eyes and green skin, as I recall, from the comics.

why has the fire guy (you know) switched sides btw?
i know he wasn't behaving to nicely but still..

What I was wanting to know is why he was with the X-Men in the first place, actually. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> Pyro was one of the founding members of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. An organization started by Magneto and then taken over by Mystique later on. I am guessing that this is their way of introducing him and showing how he ended up being on the evil side. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

yeah, i was curious about pyro being good too. now they need avalanche.
i like the newer psylocke better than the old- the butterfly thing always bugged me. plus, she kicks ass as a ninja.
morlocks would be very cool, and another good way to get storm into the story more, with a callisto conflict.
i would also like to see mr. sinister, more of colossus, and illyana.

damn I need to catch up on X-men somehow, you all know so much about it.

I bet you guys don't know 'urbanus' or 'suske and wiske' or 'jommeke' or ... though..... don't worry, they all sucks... except for 'urbanus'

the comic I really like is 'Thorgal' anyone know it...
but sorry, this is about X2

I wonder if they will ever do a "Preacher" movie? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />

Anyway, I think putting Pyro in Xaviers school to start with was a nice touch. I mean the school is just there to teach kids how to control thier powers, it doesnt necessarily train you to be "good". Pyro was obviously dissatisfied with being unable to use his powers how he wanted and much prefered Magneto's "You are a god amongst insects" line.

The brief momnet that colossus had in the movie was sooooo cool. He definately needs a bigger part in the next one....

are you sure that was only a reflection....???

I also thinks he needs a bigger part

It definetly had the feel of flying over water, and not viewing something under it, yes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Faile, I was thinking of the Psylocke before she had that Crimson stuff happen to her, but after she was a ninja. As Bestsy Braddock she was just another telepath. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

And did anyone remember that Pyro is actually supposed to be British ..? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

luna- i like the red thing the crimson dawn did to psylocke's face, but she also got really weird.

i had the feel she was flying underwater <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
but it would indeed make more sense for a bird of fire to fly over it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

ha, saw the movie yesterday, it's idd an awsome movie..

X-man 3 is deffinitly coming, and I guess the X-man 3 will be about Pyro and his brotherhood.

I've never read the comics, only sah the cartoons on tv.

my favorite chararter was Beast.

My sister was sad that Beast wasnt included either, especially considering he built Cerebro that plays such a central part to the movie. Oh well. I still thought it was brilliant. Hehe, I told my sister it was a slow start. When she saw Nightcrawler going nuts she looked at me with a raised eyebrow. I just grinned back.

talking about beast, anyone has any clue why he wasn't included???
he always has been one of the important character.
and if you can create ppl like nightcrwaler, beast can be done too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

beast was there. on the tv, in the bar.

what?? really??

you noticed that to huh...We rule faile. I want to see Banschee in one of them too....not really expecting it to happen tho

yeah, in the scene where mystique seduces magneto's gaurd, the show the tv and it's a program with dr. hank mccoy. he's not blue and furry, though.

djees you are very perceptive, I'll try to see to it, the next time I see it

what can i say, i love the x-men <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

i concur X men rule. It would have been funny to see him blue and furry on the tv in the background...lol

maybe the next one, keep your fingers crossed.

been doing that long time now faile

me too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
and i wanna say also : very perceptive indeed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

why, thank you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

hm... does jvb know what jvb said?
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

somehow I doubt it.

perceptive: oplettend <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
or another word that fits better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
i'm smarter than you think <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

nah... you're just as smart as we think.

oplettend(heid) = attentiveness

perceptive = ontvangkelijk (iets snel aanvoelen/merken)

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

perceptive = opmerkzaam

he jongens, doesn't anyone know english <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Yes... and you're doing the same as jvb.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Niet opmerkzaam op die manier, Viper.
Perceptive word meer gebruikt als je instinctief bedoeld.
Niet het echt zien, horen, ruiken of voelen van iets.
Meer het hebben van een idee, een gevoel,...

I don't think so Seth, Perceptive is like I said it was.

what is 'opmerkzaam' then??

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
opmerkzaam = attentive / observant.

but viper and i both mean the same as you.
we just didn't use the right word.
the right word just ontglipte me.

I know... it's almost all the same.
But there's a difference between really seeing something or feeling there's something there.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

i know i know <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
youre the best <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

nope
I am, I'm me.
And faile fi would be a better English-American teacher.

fi?
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

= for instance (= bijvoorbeeld)

i can teach! whaddya wanna know?

everything <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
just start at the beginning <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

ok, this will take a while. let me go get a glass of water...

ok i'll wait <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
in the meanwhile, who in here is going to see the matrix reloaded? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

me too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
come with me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Cool. Or do I want to be trapped in a dark room with JVB??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

dont be affraid
i aint gay <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

i'm probably going to see x-men again next week.
i'm sure i'll see the matrix soon too.

Yes but you do have a pink background.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

have lots of fun faile <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
i hope you like x men <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

i've already seen it, jvb. and i loved it. haven't you read anything in this thread? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

you silly dragon. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

i know, thats why i said it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

silly, silly. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

indeed he is

no i'm not <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hey Faile I am going to see MR on thurs afternoon...wanna tag along.