@Stabbey I do have to say that, while you are right about his build being essentially useless, I believe you are throwing judgement into the mix way too much. Contamination is horrible, I agree. Any other build I would never choose it simply because of its terrible nature, but for this build and theme, it works, and that's the whole point. This is a theme build, to fit a specific characteristic, which is a caterpillar. Another key thing you are missing is the fact the title says "Unique" and not "Best" or "Meta". This build is purely for fun, regardless of being useful or not, and I was actually surprised to see that while it was a lot of fun, and ridiculous, it actually worked solo quite well, and multiplayer it worked just as well if not better. Also, glass cannon, while making you easily stunned, gives you that chance to eat again. May just be my luck, but I've never been stun locked in this game longer than 2 turns. And ontop of that, for attributes I went full constitution instead of anything actually useful is because it FITS THE THEME. That was literally the whole point of the build, to have it fit the theme, and for you to get upset at me for making it fit a silly theme, that's a little low, mate. -Leptos

@Kalrakh A lot of your questions are questions I don't know the exact right answer myself, but I can say from a few trials and some hypothesizing, to answer your first question: Yes. I believe Necromancy would heal you based off Pain Reflection, simply because you are sending the damage back to your opponent through a trait, essentially. That damage then is counted as yours as it reflects back and thus when it deals vitality damage, it heals you in return. Also, to answer your second question, I believe it is reflected back as physical, but I could be wrong. If not physical, then it's reflected back as whatever the original thing was that hit you. Obviously if they hit you with fire, you aren't going to reflect back fire and burn them, so that's my theory. Your third question is an odd one that I'm not sure I should try answering because I truly have no idea. I don't believe it does, but at the same time, it reacts like any other food. You eat it, you get a buff / debuff, it ends. So it may work, it may not. Might be worth doing some testing on. 4th question: No, Flesh Sacrifice sadly doesn't increase the amount of damage that Pain Relfection does. If it did, I'd be really intrigued to see exactly how high you can get pain reflection's damage to go to, past what they originally did to you. One could assume that at 10 into pain reflection, while it would inflict 100% damage back, if Flesh Sacrifice buffed the damage and not percentage, then it would go well past 100% damage, especially if you built for buffing damage. 5th question: necromancy and zombie do infact counteract eachother. One heals for dealing damage like a healing ability, and the other heals for poison damage but essentially punishes you for any damage you take outside of poison. Having both together is suicide, you'll never have any healing through any means but poison. 6th question: Pain Reflection right now is extremely overpowered as long as you can gaurentee them to hit you and not your allies. It goes up 10% per point you put into it, so with just 10 points in, you are essentially a beast. I believe when I tried it the only way I was able to die was from abilities, spells, enviormental things, etc. that didn't do damage based on a character. Like, for instance the frogs in the cave by fort joy used an ability on me that did poison damage, and while it reflected all of that back at it, the initial hit actually did damage me. Thought that was odd, but I assumed it's because the damage from that was similar to if a barrel of oil exploded on me. The damage didn't come from a caster but rather the spell in general, which wasn't influenced by the frog in any way, just cast. Just like if I stood in oil and decided to chuck fire at my feet. I cast the fire spell, but it wasn't my spell that hurt me, it was the oil exploding and catching on fire that did. Crazy theory, but long story short, high levels with full pain reflection is a cake walk. Getting it to 80% or higher is a struggle, as your points could go into something more useful short term, but in the end, it's well worth it in my opinion. -Leptos

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