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it's only 10 weeks before it's release and their is still no final build released this means that they lie to us about their capability's.

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the last 10 weeks is for bug fixing, balancing etc. not for world building it means ether the game would be released with a maelstrom of bug's and problems (no beta testers do to time factor)

was kind of hoping for a professional company to bad they leave a weak to poor impression.

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From the start of Early Access it was stated that only the first act would be available before the full release.

Your arbitrary 10 week timeframe is would be nice in ideal circumstances, but the real world is not conducivce to ideal circumstances, and that is certainly not a standard in the game industry.

Is the current released build a "maelstrom of bug's and problems"? There are known issues, some fixed in the development version, but it is more polished than some game releases as it is.

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I died a little inside reading this. Classic example of the disconnection that the consumer has with the games they buy.

Just do everyone a favor and put your dunce cap back on and go to your corner bud.

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This is a top quality shitpost.

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Well... tbh, I'm also worried about the state the game is still in. But that's why I actually hope they postpone the release, to fix more things.


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So yeah beside the obvious troll, it would be interesting to know what's up though.

I read here and there that there are some flaws on the system (post on hybrid for example), so I think a lot of us assume there will be a change in the combat system, should this happen at some point (and will it be tested before release), or is the current version the one being polished for release?

On the first opus, in the end there was a major overall on the system with the release of EE, hopefully, the same road won't be taken here?

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There have been balancing changes and various adjustments, etc, since the last update.

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Releasing Early Access (and so early too) was always a bit of a risk, in terms of PR, I'm sure Larian knew this beforehand. Personally I just hope this EA period proved successful in terms of releasing the full game in an acceptable state, where the new revenue from sales will then go into polishing the game with more patches, maybe DLC, new titles / sequels etc.

Will have to try another run of the game now that a few months have passed since my last activity.

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Originally Posted by Wouter445
it's only 10 weeks before it's release and their is still no final build released this means that they lie to us about their capability's.
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was kind of hoping for a professional company to bad they leave a weak to poor impression.


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But I'm actually sure you know.

You should delete your account. I'm all for freedom of speech and the right to an opinion, but you are spiteful and simply trying to be obnoxious. And you succeeded.


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Originally Posted by Wouter445

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(no beta testers do to time factor)
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How do you know?

Obviously I can't confirm or deny that I am a BetaTester, but I ask again:

How do you know?
You don't know do you. You are just creating stupid statements without thinking.

Not like me. I just get really angry when I come across stupid people willing to publicly post their bile.


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Keep it civil, please.


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Funny I just post facts and those facts look with each week more like what I first posted.
For that I called troll, obnoxious, and spiteful. I suggests you look in the mirror and know your self first.

Anyone knows exactly what I am talking about because facts proven it and can't be disproves other then by this Company and it's reputation it will have after this release. They already been to the brink of bankrupt so obvious it's not unthinkable it will happens again. (Silence mostly ain't golden) in this business.

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10 weeks is not just bug fixes and balance time for any game company. It's crunch time, where everyone is working huge hours to fit all the pieces together. Probably 80-90% of the content is done or near done in their separate places (e.g., models, writing, quest design), but it all needs to put together. Testing, balance, and bug fixes also can be iterative process, where testers do small areas at a time, report bugs, balance, feedback. Obviously some holistic testing like going through a whole playthrough is needed for that true final coat of balance polish, but there's still time for that (and for all we know the main quest and combats and all that can be played through for the most part already, just without the full scripting and dialogs and whatnot.)

I don't think a recent GOTY winner on the precipice of a game that's clearly going to be far better than that GOTY would have that much trouble finding funders to pay for an extra month of development.

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So nothing different than DOS1. And we all know how that ended: a fuckton of awards.

I don't even need to hope!

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I mean, considering we have the ALPHA version of the game,t he BETA version is likely being tested by professionals. The beta testers, who again are likely professionals, have access to the whole game, acts 1-3, and even the undead race. Wouter, your 'points' aren't points at all, they're just you acting rude and childish because you don't understand how game development actually works.

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Originally Posted by TraceChaos
I mean, considering we have the ALPHA version of the game,t he BETA version is likely being tested by professionals. The beta testers, who again are likely professionals, have access to the whole game, acts 1-3, and even the undead race. Wouter, your 'points' aren't points at all, they're just you acting rude and childish because you don't understand how game development actually works.


If those professionals are as good like EU beta testers O my.
Just see Andromeda how that turned out.
So lets say that this company have like 20 beta testers is just far below average to even scratch the surface of the amount of bugs and problems we customers will encounter.
Guess most people here do not understand it's the amount of hours spend what matters also i think people need to release. I come up for their rights of a good product you should appreciate it.

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The thing is that you are playing "What if ..." and "Let's say..." games to fit your agenda and feed your negativity.

You presume a lot.
They don't have betatester. buhuu - unprofessional.

Oh wait. maybe they have. Hmmm. what now.

Let's say they have 20. That's not enough because I know these things.

But. But.
What if they are really close to being finished and the balancing is almost done?
What if they have 200 beta testers (that should be enough - no?)

We don't know. And it is particularly unfair to spout all your negativity based on assumptions gleaned from how other companies have done with stuff you obviously hate.

Wait and see.
If you are right you get to say so. I'll even let you gloat withou bashing you.


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Originally Posted by Wouter445
Just see Andromeda how that turned out.

Andrometa had many problems, approximately none of which would have been fixed by having an EA release for the last month or two. Animation problems, etc, were already known issues.


You never answered before: is the current released build a "maelstrom of bug's and problems"?

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Just see Andromeda how that turned out.

Andrometa had many problems, approximately none of which would have been fixed by having an EA release for the last month or two. Animation problems, etc, were already known issues.


You never answered before: is the current released build a "maelstrom of bug's and problems"?


The current build no, but then again it's only like 15% of the entire game. that's based on amount of quests, skills, class's map's, dialogs, animations, sounds, scripts.

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Well, if it is not the current build, then it is something you haven't even seen and know nothing about (The rest of the game), so how does that make your argument anything more than pure speculation ? I don't quite get your point here.

How can something you haven't even tested nor seen be a "maelstrom of bug's and problems" ? Pure speculation.

Just wait and see before you judge, and let the devs do their job.

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