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The release date of Divinity: Original Sin II is in few days, the game is going to be awesome as we've seen in the latest kickstarter update, but it'll be more great with their Italian subtitles!

I mean, the Italian community isn't so huge as the other one, but I've very enjoyed the DOS: EE thanks to the translation in my native language.

So, I'd would like to know if DOS II will get Italian subtitles, or if there's any chance to get it somehow.

Thanks in advance, and my apologize for any function and grammar mistakes. :D

Absolutely agree.

Italian fans deserve a localization in their own language for this game, especially because the first chapter was.

So please, larian, don't betray the Italian community, and you'll surely be rewarded for your nice work and by their love for your games.

At least, a larian response would be very appreciated...

Greetings.

Localizations at Release

Hi all of you at larian,i'm an italian gamer,and just like my compatriots just stated before me, i would love to play Divinity 2 with italian subs,all of your games are amazing,i've been recently playing the dragon knight saga on my xbox(with italian subs :D),so please make our dream come true...
Thanks

I played and worshiped all the games of Larian Studios, now, seeing no trace of translation into Italian for this game, I'm anxious
are there any hopes?

I'm italian and i don't think Larian should waste money on italian subs. Our community is too small to justify it.
Also since you all resemble decent english-speaking people, why would you want to read poor translated subs while you can enjoy the better version? +during the last decade our dubbing and subbing (once our pride) degraded in quality

Maybe because Larian's writers like to use sophisticated writing and verbal jokes. If you want to understand them well you need to know english on higher level than usual B2. D:OS2 is not some Diablo clone or strategy game. Story, dialogs are part of core experience of D:OS2 as important as tactical combat.
I play games for entertainment and siting with dictionary in front of the screen is not fun for me.

In my opinion most of rpg games and especially crpgs with all in game text jokes lose a lot with their translations on other languages, I personally think that Larian do not need to waste time on too much translation, maybe just 4-5 languages. But to does those translations really quality one (who knows maybe put even voice actors in some) but to waste time on translating game on every minor language before release, instead of translating it on English, French (which is one of native languages in Belgium also) and some of Asian ones and Russian.
Larian is not extra big company they do have to take care what they place as primary.
And as was noted before, all of you can talk basic English at least so why would you had difficulties on playing game on English?
Just let people at Larian to do this what they are doing gret instead to start translating it on loads of different languages.

I know that it's probably not worth translating the game in the italian language, and while I can play the game in english without too much trouble I still want to let you know that Larian has a very passionate italian fanbase and that an italian translation would be greatly appreciated, especially for those people who may have some trouble with the "not every day" english of the game

Larian has also Serbian fanbase too and we would like that translation, we are aware it will probably never happen. I mean there are everywhere people who have troubles with english but they do manage it.
I mean imagine if they would done translation for just like 10% of popular languages translations. Imagine how much work that would be plus delay on the game release itself and loads of other things we prolly have no idea about. I mean just payment for all those people who would do translations for every language.
I say that better Larian does game with few languages but does one damn good RPG and it seems that is exactly what they are doing

I know, trust me, I've spent days discussing on italian forums with people convinced that there's some kind of conspiracy against italian players (as if there aren't other languages, with far more native speaker and players than italian, not being localized) trying to explain that the expenses for localization are actually a big deal for small studios like Larian.
I'm just trying to be helpful to all those italian players that can't read english in case there's some hope for others localizations after the release

I know we have that for every country, and irony is that often after translation it ends up still used old english version. I still remember how me and friend finally installed first win 95 with windows translated on our language, and got totally lost..... we could not find "start" button...... it said "pocni" and not "start" (plus on our language "pocni" means "begin") after 30 minutes, we reinstalled win 95 on English

Some games have the "strings" in a file so that internationalization can be done by modders... But it's still not that simple, could be nice though... I for one have my mother tongue at launch (it helps for some friends)

Yea but modding game like Divinity Original Sin by a modder..... just look on the amount of text that there is in game.... it is insane.
I mean one thing is modding translations to games like CS:GO and DOOM and heavy RPGs like Divinity Original Sin or Pillars of eternity or Tyranny or Witcher 3.... I mean I dont need to continue naming them.... those are games with insane amount of text for translation (and not to mention on checking of grammar and all)

OK, but I played Fallout 4: 1.2 million translated words and one million words dubbed in Italian
it is not an impossibility and, in this case, since Larian is not as big as Bethesda, we would be satisfied with subtitles in our own language

Larian isn't small studio. They employ over 130 people, that’s Bethesda Game Studios level. They do voice acting for over 1M words using cast of around 80 actors - those are not some cheap folks, they hire well known actors. Their budget on voice acting is on Bioware's games level. For only small portion of this budget on voice acting they could do 5 additional localizations. If they don't want to do this localizations by themself, they could outsource it e.g. to local publishers.

Check the link for wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larian_Studios it say 40 people, they might do hire actors for voice or hire people for recording music and stuff but those peoples are not part of the studios.
There is reason why this game is Kickstarted I do not wanna sound insulting toward folks at Larian but when we look at size of studio like Bethesda (which has almost 5 time more employees), and then look at Larian you cant compare them...

PS while I do love and Skyrim and Fallout, Larian makes better stuff way to go guys on great games and respecting your community

Lol, Swen exactly said during Twitch Gamescom stream that 130 people are working on D:OS2.
Maybe durig development of D:OS Larian has 40 employees but right now this is big company and D:OS2 look like 100% AAA title. For the first D:OS game Kickstarter was necessary to enhanced game but with D:OS2 it was used mostly for marketing purposes and to engage community in development process, they could do D:OS2 from money which they earned on D:OS (1,5M copies x ~30$ = 45M $ compare this to 2M $ from Kickstarter).

Errr, it is not that simple so no. But we get the idea.

To be fair Larian doesn't have the same budget of Triple A software houses like Bethesda, their best selling games sells for hundreds of thousands while games like Fallout or Skyrim sells for tens of millions, even if the percentage for the italians sales are similar ( around 1,65/2% both for Original Sin and Skyrim) you have to take into account that the 2% of something like 20.000.000 (a game like Skyrim wich is among the first ten best selling video games of all times) isn't exactly the same as the 2% of 500.000 (this is the number of copies they needed to sell in order to get even with the development costs, as stated in Swen blog after the release of the game. The actual sales numbers should be higher).
The voice over is a total different matter, while I would have preferred more localizations instead of the voice acting I can't really blame Larian studios for choosing it since it makes the game much more appealing toward the vast majority of players (around 60% if we only take into account the sales for the native eenglish speaking countries)

Retail price for D:OS is 45$. I take 2/3 of it, I think that is good estimate, but let's say they only have 20$ from one copy, it gives us 1,5M x 20$ = 30M $ - still lots of money.


You can't compare D:OS2 with Skyrim.
If I would expect that D:OS2 sell as well as Skyrim then I would expect not localization but full voice acting.

They did said that 130 people work on the game, watch on use of words "work on game" not "work in Larian" It is considered and people who are promoting game on shows like Gamescom and similar that they are working "on game" just look on orchestra that was doing music that was almost 30 people and they also "worked on the game" in this kind of jobs there is lots of stuff in tiny words and I doubt that Larian is on same level with finances like one Bethesda (no matter that they make better games )

Larian as a company has like 40 people doing the coding and such. Then between voice actors, musicians, and so on, hit 120-130. Similarly, they make nowhere near as much money on the game itself. THEN take into accoutn that a large number of those game copies sold were sold as PART OF THE KICKSTARTER. They aren't getting some gigantic wall of money that they're selfishly hoarding (Though to be fair they do -need- a lot of that money to go towards the people who worked ont he game, because people need to be paid for their work), so...

Is hard to believe what I'm reading. Larian has 4 studios in: Ghent (Belgium), Saint-Petersburg (Russia), Quebec City (Canada), Dublin (Ireland). Do you think that in each one of this work only 10 people? 10 people need 2 rooms to work. That would be huge waste of money to rise new studio only to hire few people. 130 people in 4 studios is very reasonable number not counting 80 voice actors and 30 musicians (live orchestra).
First Kickstater had 20 000 backers, assume that everyone buy two copies, that's 40 000 copies and according to SteamSpy they sold around 1 500 000 copies of D:OS on Steam. And they are also selling D:OS on GOG, PS4, XBox. Copies sold during Kickstarter are negligible.

Obsidian entertainment have even more employees (around 170), and their last game, Pillars of Eternity was one of the best received games of 2015 (reaching about 4.000.000 dollars in its Kickstarter campaign, four times the amount of money reached by Divinity:Original Sin and two times what was pledged for Original Sin 2) earning toghter with Cities skyline 18.5 millions in three weeks, as stated here http://gamingbolt.com/pillars-of-eternity-cities-skylines-earn-18-5-million-in-three-weeks
Yet they needed to reach a specific stretch goal in the kickstarter/Fig campaign in order to afford the italian localization (2.2 million dollars for Deadfire).
So no, it is not as simple as it can seem (even though it would have been nice if there were additional stretch goals for more localizations)
EDIT by the way, I'd like to see more interventions by italian players in this thread, I know for a fact that there's a lot of italians who would greatly appreciate a localization in their native language.
Make yourselves heard

Obsidian is very different beast. They work on many projects in parallel (right now 4). Words of Josh Sawyer - Project Director and Lead Designer on Pillars of Eternity - from 2016:
"The company has grown and shrunk over time. It’s now a little over 200 people, with most of the developers working on Armored Warfare. The Tyranny team is between 20 and 30 people (I think). The Pathfinder team has less than 10 (again, I think). My team is currently fairly small, about 20 people."
So on first PoE works only 20 people. IIRC right now they have about 35 people working on PoE2. PoE is selling worse then D:OS (1,15M copies for PoE and 1,5M for D:OS). PoE have bigger discout during steam sales then D:OS - first 50% discount for D:OS was 21 months after release, for PoE it was 7 months after release. Unlike in Larian, money form PoE have to be shared with Paradox (publisher) and don't go strictly on development of PoE2 but are rather used to support whole Obsidian. My point is that buget and team size of PoE2 is much smaller then D:OS2, despite this PoE2 will have translation to French, Italian, German, Spanish, Russian, Polish, Chinese, Korean and Portuguese language.

Also I would like to mention that I don't have any interest in italian localization but I would love if they do polish localization like for any other Larian games before

If the Italiens get a localization it will be unfair to the Danes.

There might not be many of us playing Larian's games, but we could be more, if only we understood the game's "in jokes".
Not only that. We have a whole part of our contry that barely speaks our language - Jutland. The deserve a chance to be civilized as well.

I haven't paid for three licenses to have the Italians get their own translation, and then have the Danes left in the gutter.

That said I think every country, apart from the main languages that Larian already does cover, should be able to have their own Kickstarter campaign and collect money enough to pay for sub'ing or text'ing.

Peace...

That would be great!

This is actually really best solution, cause if smaller companies would had to pay translations for the translations even like 10 or so languages that would cost them really a lot.
This is actually perfect solution, to bad that I doubt that it would get implemented

What sort of demented explanation is this?

See. That's what I mean.
We Danes can't even string together a coherent argument, let alone a coherent argument that is even slightly satirical, without being misinderstood.
How do you then think we feel about all the great jokes in the game, and us not having a localization?

But OK. I'll make it plain for even the hearing impaired.
A lot of nations could grovel for a localization. The main languages has been covered. That should be enough.

Then offer yourself as a sacrifice for translation purposes.

sorry but the problem is not justice, it's another
the Italian language is among the most popular in the world and is studied abroad more than German
For this reason the translations have always been "multi 4", ie: English, German, French and Italian

Italian would be very welcome.

Not all Italians speak English perfectly
we need an Italian translation

Una buona alternativa per protestare è comprare il gioco e richiedere subito il rimborso a steam, mettendo come risposta nella recensione che non è in italiano

Ma poi vogliamo scherzare, pure il russo il RUSSO, noi quindi non valiamo nulla per loro

beh! la russia ha un potenziale bacino d'utenza (e di pirateria) ben più ampio dell'italia (che pirata molto poco)
ma, probabilmente, anche larian cade nell'equivoco: molti di noi, per risparmiare, comprano vg dagli shop russi e quindi le vendite agli italiani finiscono per essere sottostimate

Come on larian, italian subs for the win

Since D:OS is a much more story driven rpg then typical ones, with a lot of text to read and fully understand, I'd be super happy if they include an italian translation.

The first game was beautifully translated by the italian community for free, now it's your turn Larian!

The game is already released. You talked about news after the release. Please Larian give to the italian community the good news.

I do not understand: I continue to find my italian friends who buy, even today, the first Original Sin as I see that the second does not sell copies in italy
today in Italy the gaming market is worth over one billion euros
on steam I find hundreds of thousands of games translated into Italian
why is Original sin II not among them?

So,it appears that DOSII has been well received in terms of sells,almost 500000 copies sold!
An effort must be done to increase even more that number and let everyone enjoy your game,please larian consider the localization in italian,if you not want to do it by yourself,please contact the ones that did FOR FREE the localization for Original Sin(RPG ITALIA),i'm sure that they will be happy to help you in any way.

[quote=f5f9]I do not understand: I continue to find my italian friends who buy, even today, the first Original Sin as I see that the second does not sell copies in italy
today in Italy the gaming market is worth over one billion euros
on steam I find hundreds of thousands of games translated into Italian
why is Original sin II not among them?[/quote]

Simple, because they are waiting for the italian community that do it again for FREE.

Mi sono registrato solo per scrivere in questo POST, Ragazzi è un RPG deve essere chiaro e perfettamente comprensibile, non si può giocare a D&D senza capire nulla o quasi xD che si faccia un FAN SUB o lo fanno loro, qualcosa deve essere fatto, già la gente si rompe le palle a leggere, se fosse parlato in italiano sto gioco sarebbe la fine del mondo. Detto questo, il gioco è uscito, adesso sarebbe bello che la Larian dichiarasse come da loro detto, se verranno sviluppate altre lingue.

Please Larian, i use your quote:

English, French, German and Russian will be available at release. Other localizations may be announced later in development, or after the full release.

The game is released , you can please announce if other localizations are provided ?

We must have this game in italian for beautiful experience.

Thanks for Awesome Game really. And sorry for my incorrect english.

As an Italian fan i'd love to support this thread. Me and my couch coop friends would love an Italian localization the sooner possible to enjoy the game at its best ^^ (Great work on everything, we love you!)

plz Larian , we want spanish and italian subs

JUST MY 2 CENTS:

ITA or DANISH subs will be ok for me, but i love to play in ENG just to improve my language skills.

sottotitoli in ITA sarebbero il top per non perdersi nessuna battuta, ma raga giochi come questo sono ottimi per migliorare il proprio inglese.

Love your excellent work, loved the first chapter, loving the new one even more. If you can localize it. Yes, you can! ;)

the Italian language would be great.
Especially for people who don't speak English

Scusate per il mio inglese, la colpa non è mia ma di google translator.
Non parlo inglese neppure a livello scolastico e per la verità non è un grande problema se non fosse che alcuni giochi non posso giocarli. Ci speravo tanto in questo nuovo capitolo, che fosse stato tradotto come fu per il primo, anche perché la mia passione non è solo giocare, ma tirarne fuori anche tutte le guide e soluzioni. Esattamente come ho fatto per DOS e che potete vedere qui: https://www.rpgitalia.net/guide-e-soluzioni/divinity-original-sin-soluzione-completa/

E' stato un lavoraccio, ma lo rifarei mille volte anche per DOS 2 se fosse nella mia lingua.

Sorry for my English, guilt is not my but a google translator.
I do not speak English even at the school level and for the truth is not a big problem if it is not that some games can not play them. I was hoping so much in this new chapter that it had been translated as it was for the first, because my passion is not just playing, but also pulling out all the guides and solutions. Exactly as I did for DOS and that you can see here: https://www.rpgitalia.net/guide-e-soluzioni/divinity-original-sin-soluzione-completa/

It was a work, but I did it a thousand times again for DOS 2 if it was in my language.

I hope that in the next months Larian will translate the game in italian. I will buy it surely!!!

Larian, in my opinion you should consider this: may be that the German market is bigger than our but almost the total of them speak a fluent English (so they'll buy the game anyway), Italian market is composed of people that doesn't speak English very well so the priority is translate it Italian because, in proportion, you're loosing more customers.

Some news about additional localizations ? Now German, French and Russian has been added, and i will expected an announcement very soon.

I mean, the game was released, basic languages added, major bugs fixed, i do not know what prevents them from announcing new languages.

Larian ?!?!?

Hi, wonderful game but without the italian language I can't play. Please, do the translation, I will buy the game at full price.
Thanks!

Hello to everyone, I would apologize for my bad English.
I wanted to join me at this great demand for Italian location.
I loved Divinity Original Sin, like me many of my friends, but this was only possible because it was localized in Italian.
Tomorrow I will finally buy my copy of Divinity Original Sin 2 but I will not enjoy it because I have a mastery of English really bad, because I love this title, I buy it equally, hoping to be localized, but I know many and repeat, many other people , here in my city, (Rome) who are looking forward to buying their Divinity Orginal Sin 2 too, but unfortunately they will not do so until the Italian location has arrived.
Please, Larian announces this location, here in Italy we really are many to love your work and unfortunately without our language many of us will not buy it or worse yet they will not enjoy it and understand it well, risking to ruin the experience.
I know my post will not make a difference, but I really hope that everyone who is writing here and on Steam requesting the Italian language in the game will be heard.
Awaiting the Italian location.
Greetings
Giacomo



Salve a tutti, vorrei scusarmi per il mio pessimo inglese.
Volevo unirmi anche io a questa grande richiesta per la localizzazione italiana.
Ho adorato Divinity Original Sin, come me molti miei amici, questo però è potuto accadere solamente perchè localizzato in italiano.
Domani finalmente acquisterò la mia copia di Divinity Original Sin 2 purtoppo però non potrò godermela perchè ho una padronanza della lingua inglese veramente pessima, siccome adoro questo titolo, lo acquisto ugualmente, nella speranza che venga localizzato, ma conosco molte e ripeto, molte altre persone, qui nella mia città, (Roma) che non vedono l'ora di acquistare anche loro Divinity Orginal Sin 2 ma purtroppo non lo faranno finche non sarà arrivata la localizzazione italiana.
Perfavore, Larian annuncia questa localizzazione, qui in Italia siamo veramente in molti ad amare il vostro lavoro e purtroppo senza la nostra lingua molti di noi non lo acquisteranno o peggio ancora non potranno gustarlo e capirlo bene, rischiando quindi di rovinarsi l'esperienza.
So che il mio post non farà la differenza, però spero veramente che tutti quelli che stanno scrivendo qui e su Steam richiedendo la lingua italiana nel gioco, verranno ascoltati.
In attesa della localizzazione italiana.
Saluti
Giacomo

Quoto!
I would like a translation for this game! this game seems nice but complex to understand if not in Italian!

Please....Italian translation!!!!!....please!!!!!!!!

Please Larian, we wait an italian localization for play this amazing game!!

I want to buy DOS 2 but my english is not good enough to play this game decently... please Larian translate at least the subtitles!

Thanks in advance

First of all, thanks for DOS2.
It's simply Amazing, but i sincerely hope that you will proceed with italian translation.
All of us actually look at DOS2 with great satisfaction, with this translation the game will become EPIC, simply EPIC.
I have a lot of friends in the order of 15/20 waiting for the translation, as it become real they will buy the title immediatly.
PLEASE LARIAN TRASLATE DOS2 IN ITALIAN.
Obviously, i support all other localizations, like spanish, danish...ecc...

This comment made me jump from my seat in anger. Are you retarded or something? Are you really complaining that russian is a top priority instead of italian? Than you say you they don't care about you cause of that. Funny.
Russia is a HUGE market with lots of people not even talking basic english. Italy is a WAY smaller market with better english speaking people. Tell me what you'd do in their shoes. The same.
Respect yourself, stop posting shit. E non scrivere in italiano.

Love your excellent work, loved the first chapter, loving the new one even more. If you can localize it. Yes, you can!

Hello everybody; I like so much the first Divinity Original Sin and I'm in love for the second, so much that I buyed it also if the game isn't localized in italian, unfortunately my english isn't very good and for this I can't understand the story at 100%. I would say a personal thing, no offense; maeby, we are a little part of the buyers and this don't increment the buisness or not improve so much your earnings, but I think that the game and the story must to be understanding for everybody, because every part of this game it's possible also for our little contribute, so please please please Larian add the italian localizzation and so also us can played this game in total involvement. Thank you for the fantastic experience with divinity and for create this amazing game; I'm hope waiting for the Italian localization. Noemi

I really hope for Italian Localization. This kind of game should be played in our native language to understand all stories, lore and mission.

Tnx guys you are awesome!

bitterness
Larian's silence is deafening, for me it will be a great pain if I have to give up the game

Well,no words from you Larian? At the very least you Can slain our hopes for good. Tell Us something about the additional localizations that you May bring in the future!

There isn't really that much to say, frankly.

Italian customers on average love to bitch a lot and buy very little, so a translation has very good chances to be a waste of money.

Still with this story of the waste of money ???
Here in Italy there are many people interested in purchasing Divinity Original Sin 2, and many are waiting for localization...
Unfortunately, there will never be as many people interested like in the united states or other major European countries, but interested people who want to buy the title there are and are also looking forward to.
If Larian's boys do not want to become unbalanced by announcing the official Italian localization they may at least give their approval for the amateur localization that has been playing these days and try to collaborate in some way.
I apologize for my bad English.
Giacomo

No, there aren't.
Numbers say the italian market is absolutely abysmal for RPGs (and for anything that isn't FIFA, COD or Assassin's Creed, really).

Our marker in this genre is so bad we are outmatched even by other European countries with a far lower population.

The market will also speak plain but there is also to say that if a title is not localized from the beginning, sales will surely be even lower, especially in a country like ours (I'm really sorry to say) is very ignorant, the problem is definitely the basis, in Italy a few people love to read books accordingly a genre such as crpgs that rely heavily on text reading, are certainly not among the most popular titles.
But the situation is not so bad, personally in my city there are and I know many people who love this kind of games that they have bought and are expecting to buy Divinity Original Sin 2 and I'm also noticing these days which discusses the subject on various forums and Italian sites, many young people who want to get close to this wonderful genre and believe that with a title like Divinity Original Sin 2 there would be no better way to approach it. Unfortunately, however, if securities are getting less and less localized, it will be more and more difficult to engage the younger ones, either because of our weird school system that does not fit the English requirement, either because of lack of possibilities or for laziness, do not know the tongue.
As I see it I also have to say that if a company hopes or wants to sell it as much as possible it has to try to fit in contexts where it usually does not sell a lot, maybe trying to invest a minimum, maybe even looking for alternative solutions (such as such as fan support, especially after the first title has been localizated by fans at cost 0, thus allowing economic return).
Obviously far from me criticizing Larian's choices, or trying to impose my thoughts in an arrogant way, I'm just answering you because you're partially right, but the situation is not so terrible and we were certainly not in 10 to buy the game, so you can only improve.
Unfortunately we all know the problem that has led to the lack of localization in our language, I find it useless and out of place to continue to emphasize it, especially if this page is dedicated to those who hope to make Larian change their mind.
I still apologize for my bad English.
Giacomo

I need italian localizzation for this wonderful game. It is unplayable otherwise. I hope you do so!

You are awesome!

not to forget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgR9cWhADE#t=20