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So any race can where the mask.
Fane gives the elf mask to my dwarf knight.
Can my dwarf wear the mask and gain skills by eating corpses?
Then give the mask back and keep the skill?

Exactly this... if you watch their youtube video explaining this, he delves straight into the reasoning behind the fact that if you aren't going to face rip and use a mask as an undead, most NPC townsfolk will run away from you // not trade w/ you etc...

Why people come up with a complaint for nearly every dev decision ever made is beyond me. They introduce sometime a day old and already slew of cry babies and whiners.

He could walk around in town just fine as long as they where wearing a helmet and clothes that covered the body and face. So really didn't seem like they needed the mask that badly.

And the issue isn't really the ability to wear the mask. The issue is gaining the racials of the face you are wearing, and that every partymember, regardless of if they are undead or not, can wear it. As well as you are able to make masks for everyone.

So whats the point of picking a race in the beginning. You can just change it whener you feel like it (when you have made the masks).

As well as its pretty much forcing everyone to have Fade in the party, or be in a big disadvantage to anyone who has Fade in the party.

So before you make the mature comment about whiners. Maybe read the whole information. its less about being able to change race and more about what that does.

Simply put, whats the reasoning behind being able to gain the racials?
And if you can gain whatever racial you want, whenever you want; Whats the point of picking race in the beginning?

He could just make a mask for the dwarf to keep.
And no, the dwarf can only corps eat as long as its wearing the elfs face.

The issue is that you gain the racials of the face you are wearing. So whats the point of picking race in the beginning?
Well unless you decide to not have undeads in the party.

copy paste from the update/newsletter... thing

"A very important thing to remember while playing an Undead is that you cannot just traipse about with your bony face free to the world. You’re a monster. A hideous, frightening monster! So cover your face. Or, consider ripping the face off of a nearby corpse to disguise yourself as someone of that race! The Mask of the Shapeshifter will allow you to take on the appearance of any mortal race you would like.

For example, you can shift to a Dwarf for better prices from a Dwarven merchant, or shift to an Elf to dine on a corpse and learn their memories with the Elven racial ability Corpse Eater. Multiple masks can be made, and they can even be used by other living characters to disguise themselves as other races, allowing them to approach situations in new ways."

Its a bit strange to change from an undead lizard to a living dwarf, but hey, magic. And thats fine in itself, i understand the reason behind it. And it then naturally gives you the ability to pick the race for the situation.

The annoying part that makes the mask unessecarly op is the ability to gain whatever race you pick, racial. For what reason is that reasonable to gain?
And if you can just switch between the races and gain whatever racial you want, whenever you want. Whats the point in picking race in the beginning (except the to play the different origins)?

Then its just easier to have the whole team be undeads, so its easier to build healers for the whole team. Then just put on the masks of whatever race you wanted your class to have.

Isn't it so, that wearing the Mask of the Shapeshifter will perpetually prevent you from wearing any other helmet, thus resulting in a somewhat relevant constant combat-drawback?

That tbh I have NO idea, but it solid point I mean if you get bonuses from mask and PLUS bonuses that higher level helmets can give you..... you almost become mixture of predator and xenomorph.

Good question, dont really know if its an helmet or an "item" you activate in the inventory, or similar.

From the twitch stream, it looks like it's equipped like a helmet. You use an ability to shape change after you equip it.

The Mask is a kickstarter unlock thing.

It exists so that your party isn't locked out of solving certain quests just because it has no <specific race>, in addition to allowing undead to normally walk about(which they cannot do in their true form).

I dont think that mask is kickstarter thing, I think you mean on one from CE.
On stream however they did messed around the code of game a little so they could get mask instant, they did said that crafting mask is not that simple.

They hardly messed with the game code, they used a debug command to spawn the item in their inventory.
See that as a cheat code rather, and they could do that with any items in the game, special edition, kickstarter things. So that's not an indicator.

But I don't think this is a kickstarter item either otherwise they would have specified it.

Yea well they had to hurry things up because of stream I am not surprised.
But you are right, never ever did they mentioned that mask is kickstarter bonus so I doubt that they would change that without saying anything

What does it matter that you can change your race? Like really? Essentially unless you save scum (which is a choice anyway) you're either playing as your real race or currently acting as another which will force you to act as X race whenever an event pops up.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter. For example, if you had one of every race in your group already then the mask is already pointless. If you're all elves however but decide to change races on whim with the mask, it still doesn't matter.

Mostly though I don't think you get to pick the cosmetics of your race with the mask so that may be the may detriment for most. At any rate I just don't see the problem.

If the mask does not only give you the visuals but also racial traits and skills, the mask is pretty op. Playing every other race in competitive play will just put you at a serious disadvantage. Undeads already have heavy advantage with 'playing undead' and immunity to death fog and the mask negates not only their main weakness (getting avoided by NPC), but also grants you the benefits from every other race, as it seems. So you can combine strengths of undead with strengths of elfs.

Because honestly the other races are pretty weak anyway, if they did not change that fact with a huge overhaul for the release.

I actually like it, it thematically fits with necromancy. If it only changed your looks, then it would probably be a lot easier to create a simple illusion spell instead of wearing someones dead face. Giving the pain it is to get all the "ingredients", gaining the racial traits justifies the cost.

However, when you take the face of an NPC, do you look like that exact NPC or is it just some random NPC with the same race? Could we use it to kill an important NPC and pretend to be them while playing? That would be pretty cool. On a side note, can we hide the mask when playing so we can see our avatar? Not a fan of watching my character walk around with a box for a head.

I asked that question in the stream. Unfortunately you will take the default race look of that gender. So if you are a male undead and you steal Griff's face (example i used in stream question) you will look like the default human male, not Griff.

I think it is a bit of a shame but hey who knows maybe you can wear the mask and change the race appearance with the mirror on lady vengeance.

You won't be able to pretend to be Griff and give orders either. But i guess implementing that would be way too complex and a giant pain in the butt.

I think he meant it was a kickstarter stretch goal / bonus addition, not that it was specifically for kickstarter backers only. Far as I know this time there isn't much for kickstarter only (we got the custom mercenary thingy for the first one for instance), but I guess that's overall for the best.

Haaaaa, I see.

The was the backpack Zandalor's underwear and the chalice to dye things in gold too.
I don't mind small bonuses like that, ... I am sad I did not kickstart the second, game it ended before I played and fall in love with the first one

I'm pretty sure the underwear and chalice were just for preorder? I don't know for sure, I Kickstartered both games but my brother picked up the first right before release and he still had chalice and underwear I believe. The kickstarter reward was being able to customized the appearance of your mercenaries for full custom parties until they let you do it to companions.

For the second game the only benefit I really got was getting it at a crazy cheap price, but wait long enough and anyone can get in on that too. Some higher tiers got spotlight stuff but nothing really gameplay wise.