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You still need Ini so your team get to go first. IF you go first, the order is You-Enemy-You.
As it is normally impossible to break the shield alone without super strong gears and still, you need at least 2 people to help with the focus fire/attack.
Because you get to act twice before the enemy 2nd person get to act, you can easily focus fire the enemy 2nd-to-act and CC him. Any extra AP can go to the 3rd person. IF the 3rd person is strong enough, you just shut off 2 enemies action on the first turn and win the fight.
If you cannot view that as a massive advantage, you cannot discuss tactics. That method can still get you a legit 2-turn teamwipe like you can always do on EA, just with actual planning that involves thinking about the enemies.
This is not even counting 3-side battle where if you go 2nd, you go 3rd because the 3rd side count as enemies and it will go enemy side 1 - enemy side 2 - you. You get hit twice as much so if your team don't get wit, you better be pressing retreat.
And what opportunity cost? You already reach the cap at level 15 on those. What are you gonna invest in next? Mem? They also went and nerfed the slotted rune crit chance on amulet form 30-40% to 10-15% since Act 3 unique gears no longer have 3 slots for fire runes. Wit is now stronger to guarantee that moves like Arrow Storm will actually deal significant damage to bosses in Act 3 that don't have the size of an elephant.
If simply saying "Nah they're not useful cause I say they aren't" is the only arguement you can come up with to say a stat is weak, you're not being constructive and helpful. There's a reason why people around here keep trying to avoid bringing Con up. They just want the wombo combo abuse back in the game.
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