Originally Posted by Ellezard
[...] That method can still get you a legit 2-turn teamwipe like you can always do on EA, just with actual planning that involves thinking about the enemies.[...]


Except you conveniently pick an ideal situation which hardly ever presents itself in-game.

- Enemies usually LoS you, which means they have to move before you can even target them.
- Enemies usually nuke one of your characters so hard that you need to blow APs on saving them.
- Your group may require quite a few actions to become effective in the first place. Summons, buffs etc. all eat up AP.

Now if your characters put points into WIT instead of STR, FIN, or INT then your tactic will be even weaker. Since they may not have the power required to CC anybody (assuming everything above aligns in your favour), the plan goes out the window. Which has been our point for the last 5+ pages.

I would also like to point out, once again, that the game is not only the final few hours when you have maxed all attributes and are all pimped out with legendary gear on all party members. You also have to account for the time during which people are levelling up -- those can easily be 30+ hours of gameplay! -- and still have greens and blues in their inventories.

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If simply saying "Nah they're not useful cause I say they aren't" is the only arguement you can come up with to say a stat is weak, you're not being constructive and helpful.


A lot of people have tried different avenues to explain to you the shortcomings of the current WIT and initiative system in a clear and succinct manner. Calling them unconstructive and unhelpful is a rather ungraceful way of pulling out of the discussion.

Last edited by Terodil; 22/09/17 09:45 PM.