How do you know these do not involve a verbal component?
I never claimed I *know* what is what. I never said I know for a fact that these do and those don't. In my first post I used the word "shouldn't". So the point is not about whether we know what is true and what is not. The point is: what makes more *sense* than what. Which seems more logical to you, A or B.
Clearly we have different opinions, as far as "which one makes more sense" or "which is more logical" is concerned. I created the original post, because details like these could add more depth to combat and make it feel more consistent and logical to me. If you don't care, or don't agree, that's fine. Carry on.