I think that in general most people can agree that Sneaking in combat is not useful at a cost of 4 AP, and that the Guerrilla Talent is therefore - at best - only useful for sneaking and opening a fight with it.

This is a tricky issue, as if Sneak were to be too powerful, it could make combat too easy in places. I'm not going to pretend that I have the answers. The ideas I have might be just ridiculously overpowered and untenable.

Skills we also need to consider when making changes to Sneak are Moral Blow, Assassinate, Chameleon Cloak, Blessed Smoked Cloud, and maybe even Flurry and All In.

Let's have a conversation and try and get some different ideas about ways to make Sneak (especially Sneak in combat) and the Guerrilla Talent as things which are viable.


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Here's the radical change I have come up with at the moment:

Why not just go all-in on the current philosophy, which basically has Sneaking in combat as non-existent, and Guerrilla as only useful as an opening salvo? Key points:

- Sneaking during combat is completely disabled. It's not a matter of needing a lot of AP. If you are in combat, you just flat out can't hit the button, regardless of sight lines.

- Guerrilla Talent damage while sneaking increased from +40% to +100%. It doubles the damage from normal attacks, and ONLY normal attacks, it does NOT apply to any skills. Because you can't sneak in combat, this cements Guerrilla as ONLY being useful to open combat. Obviously this should only apply once per combat to prevent using this to open, then fleeing and returning to repeat it. But I am not sure whether fleeing and returning counts as a new combat, it could be a problem if it does.

- Assassinate already doesn't stack with Guerrilla or Invisibility (according to the wiki), so that goes with my recommended change to boost Assassinate's regular damage to be +50% greater than a normal attack to make it match the cost/AP.


I did have another idea, but I discarded it as being pretty lousy and useless.

So basically, I don't really have any good ideas. How about you?