Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Mega-threads and Guides The Turn-Based/Real Time with Pause topic

Not that I'm particularly invested in the discussion or interested in an argument of any sort, but I'm just pointing out that there's a difference there. DOS2 is Larian's own thing, they could do whatever they wanted to, going with whatever formulas or systems they came up with. Other than the core things that worked well in DOS, they didn't have to worry too much about sticking with anything specific. On the contrary, BG3 is "supposedly" the successor of a classic series. There are veterans and fans, and hell, there are fanatics too, of the original games who *expect*, *want*, and *demand* certain things from this game. It's only to be expected that a number of players will be turned off if certain aspects diverge too far from those in the original games.

It's using the same basic location as BG1, but other than that it's not really a sequel. The sooner people accept that and judge it for what it really is, Baldur's Gate 5e, the sooner we can move on.

Yeah and Final Fantasy XV is the fourteenth sequel to Final Fantasy

They called it Baldurs Gate because fewer people would care if it was called Dungeon's and Dragons: Illithid uprising. It's the oldest trick to make your game more interesting by connecting it to an IP people remember. People who expect a sequel to Baldurs Gate should be prepared for massive disappointment.

I agree. One thing in common in all the interviews about bg is that they distanced themselves from the classic BG trilogy. They do not even name one game.

I think they could do a very good game, but I do not think the game will be a continuation in story, mechanics, etc... of the previous games.

Yeah, and just like the last time so too here you are misrepresenting what I am saying. I never said anything about it being partially one and the other. I am talking about a system that takes one OR the other and then makes some technology-based changes to it to make it more palatable to those who don't like that type of system. In Realms Beyond, for example, the devs have talked about having an option to completely skip over the animations for the enemy and even for your party as a way of speeding things up. They have also said you can set up AI profiles for your party members and then have the AI auto-resolve combats for you, a feature I intend to use a lot. But the feature I am thinking of that Larian could potentially use, in a TB system, is to allow me to input the actions for all of my party members all at once and then have the AI resolve everything simultaneously. This way I won't have to suffer through the usual tedium and irritation of a sequence of turn-taking.

Man this message-board is lucky to have so many members who, without a SECOND of actual gameplay footage or any SPECIFIC INFO about actual gameplay or combat, are so sure about how disappointing and unworthy the game will be to other people and how glorious and enjoyable it will be to them.

So how's it work? Do we have to take a test to get in, or can we just convert at the community center?

I think I'm pretty much done with RtwP unless they build the best AI/Scripting system I've ever seen and it best be easy to use with predictable outcomes. PoeT2 has a lot of options there, but so much of it doesn't work out like you want it to, and with that fail I'm just tired of the janky stop/start action. Theoretically I can see liking it but the AI and controls have to be there. I'd say so far the best attempt at this was Dragon Age 2, which was good and easy to use, to the point I rarely paused, imo that is how the system should be, good enough to play real-time always or almost always with very few needed pauses.

I found the combat in DA2 fun, a little repetitive but well made, but I think there are better RTWP games. In NWN-NWN2, for instance, you can sequence actions in a queue ( like spells or skills) and issue orders to your characters instead of making several pauses. Very useful for spellcasters and thieves.

And about good IA... well, I usually prefer to play the game, not watch the IA fighting, but I know many people do not like micromanage the party. Unless the game is full of trash mobs and repetitive encounters I usually prefer to handle the party myself. If you have too many fights that you won using auto-fight without issuing an order like in phone games I tend to get bored. I liked that in BG2 or Drakensang games you have to issue orders even in most random encounters.

It makes no sense to me at all that people say pausing in RTwP is jarring/a pain etc. and yet somehow the 'pausing' in TB combat is fine.

When you have a 100% TB game the flow remains the same, aka non-jaring. When you have both, to me they are both masters of neither, aka janky. Simple, next.

Most RTwP* seems to give me control of the pause button and how often I use it, if at all. Currently playing Greedfall which uses the same system and it works well enough. The only real problem is me: I'm hasty, impatient and kinda rubbish at combat in whatever form it's presented.

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* that I've encountered, I mean.

Most RTwP* seems to give me control of the pause button and how often I use it, if at all. Currently playing Greedfall which uses the same system and it works well enough. The only real problem is me: I'm hasty, impatient and kinda rubbish at combat in whatever form it's presented.

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* that I've encountered, I mean.

Is that only a single controllable character?

I know there are people saying there is a chance BG3 will look like that (how are the graphics?), an ARPG... but I have doubts that any studio would opt for such a drastic departure from the previous games.