I think, though, that if we wait for governments to do something, we'll be waiting a long time. I used the South African situation as an example because I was working there right after that system fell, and I talked to a lot of folks about it. All that most national governments offered was polite disapproval, if that. What really made the difference was consumers, artists, businesses, etc putting huge pressure on them in a sustained way. We're not going to change the world by being forum warriors, of course, but I think a constant trickle of discomfort, from many quarters, does serve a purpose.
My personal position is that if you publicly flog people for homosexuality, that country is off my list of holiday destinations, and also off the list of places I would invest.
I certainly take your point about the backsliding in our own societies. If we're not very careful, worrying about which other states practice human rights abuses will become a moot point...
Last edited by Kaspar; 20/11/19 02:03 PM.