Ugmaro thank you THANK You for illustrating my point PERFECTLY.

At level 20.
At level 20 a fighter does this.
At level 20, the time when your average Warrior kicks an enemy to the ground and attacks him three times, making it easier to hit him.

You know what a wizard can do at level 20?
Meteor Swarm, Power word kill oh how about TIme stop, how about Demiplane?

I mean fuck all that, at level 20 a Wizard is gonna be casting a Wish.


So while your Wizard is a literal god.
Your fighter is going to wack a single enemy a couple of times.

Have i illustrated my point by now?
I had to put this here for the people not familliar with DnD 5e.
Neutralizing a single enemy with Attacks that can miss, especialy with bounded accuracy, is terrible.
its not very strong and you dont do this at level 1.
A fighter at level 1 is not doing mutliple actions and attacks and combat moves. hes gonna do one of those things.

And letting him shove thigns for a minor action?
Yeah, thats overpowered mate

Im not mad at you, im not trying to make anything personal here.
but this gets regurgitated a lot as if its fine. When you break it down like that, i dont think anyone can agree that this is good class balance

Last edited by Sordak; 01/03/20 04:34 PM.