Originally Posted by theNight
Delicieuxz:

Dude, you are completely delusional. Haven't seen a post with so many half-truths and lies in a while.

I am sure that the only reason why Larian is doing this is to "use BG brand and do a quick cash-grab". Gtfo.

Read for example the interview with one of the main writers - you will understand that these people share a similar passion for the old games as we do.

Otherwise looks elsewhere for some computer games, spreading misleading information will only lead to more hate,...

You are outright lying when you claim that my post contained half-truths and lies. Obviously, some disposition of yours is preventing you from looking at situations objectively.

My first statement was: "But Larian aren't making anything that resembles the Baldur's Gate series in any way. So how can it be said that Larian are the most suitable developer to deliver precisely what they have no interest in delivering and are literally not even attempting to deliver?"

And that is true. We can go through the elements of what was shown in the "BG3" gameplay footage categorically to substantiate what I said. But we can't do the same to substantiate your claim that what I said was either a lie or a half-truth.

The next point that I made is: "If people don't speak out now, there will be no point in speaking out later. The earlier people speak out, the most chance there is that something will improve."

That is a truth, logically self-evident and also proven time after time in a game's development cycle. For you to claim it is a lie or a half-truth is obviously nothing more than you fanboying and getting upset that somebody is putting things into perspective in a way that is not simply fawning over the developer.

The last point I made is: "Larian are clearly not trying to deliver the best-possible experience for everyone, but are trying to exploit the goodwill that the Baldur's Gate series name conjured up to promote their DOS gameplay and get more people buying both "BG3" and their DOS games. Swen stated so in an interview:

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Calling their game "Baldur's Gate 3" when it has absolutely nothing in common with the original Baldur's Gate series is only being done as a cash-grab."

And that point was supported by a quote from Swen where he literally states that they're using the Baldur's Gate name to promote their DOS formula. The act of exploiting a brand-name for the purpose of serving something other than what that brand-name stands for is a cash-grab. It is unfaithful to the series name and it is disrespectful to the fans of that series' name which is being exploited.

And another quote by Baldur's Gate's executive producer corroborates this position in saying that Larian chose to copy DOS' gameplay formula because they didn't want to take any risks:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-02-27-baldurs-gate-3-interview
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The choices that we made are ours. Why did we go for turn-based instead of real-time with pause? Because D&D to us is a turn-based game and we're really good - or we have become really good - with turn-based combat. So that, I think, is one of our strengths, and trying out real-time with pause for now, just because the originals were that? It's a big risk. Because the team would have to think completely differently, our combat would be completely different. And we didn't really feel good about that. Normally we do try out a lot. Normally we try out a lot before we make a decision, but with real-time with pause and turn-based we didn't, we just said "Okay it's just gonna be turn-based."


If Larian just wanted to make another DOS game to not take any risks and to promote their Divinity brand, then they should have just made another DOS game using their brand and not co-opting another one to do it. And if they were afraid of taking the risk of delivering on what a series name stands for, then they shouldn't have asked to make a game in that series which they are not brave enough or with enough integrity to actually make a game for. And to just make a modified DOS game using that other series' name, being unfaithful to that series, is a sell-out move, and using that series name to promote their own DOS formula is a cash-grab.

So, you are simply reacting in fanboy fashion to having valid points raised by me. Therefore, your response to me is entirely unwarranted and delusional, and is flame-baiting.

What I wrote in my previous post stands, especially since you were utterly incapable of challenging a single point of what I said and merely threw out ad hominem.