Originally Posted by Gmazca
The issue comes down to where the line is for separate options. You're not exactly playing "Core Rules" without the exhaustion mechanic in place. You are tipping the balance of difficulty because you can perform any actions you want for as long as you want without the threat of exhaustion.

If exhaustion is toggleable in any difficulty, what other mechanics would be able to be switched on and off? Idk, but in BG2, if I used the haste spell twice before resting I became exhausted. That's just the way D&D rules work.

[quote=Cirolle]

It is a fact that the one that set up the choice to begin with is the GM. It doesn't just spring up out of nowhere.
Who else would have set up the choice? (Have you ever been a GM btw?)



Again I am agreeing with you, however in the end it is also the GMs part (in some systems) to make the story go ahead.

In your example, you set up the obstacle of the horde getting away. Sure, they burn down some farmstead. The players wish they had made another choice and tried to save it. Sure. This is fine storytelling, but you came up with these choices.
I am not being negative about these things in any way.

It is true that a GM isn't there to solve the players problems, but they are the ones that put the problems in the way of the players to begin with.
You could into the extremes (oh no sigh) and say "Well, here is the deal. You will get both your hands cut off OR this little girl will get whipped 50 times. What do you choose?" That's your choice as a GM. Can't put it on the players really. (Lucky us the players will always take choice number 3 instead)

I feel we are just going back and forth on story and GM things here and that is fine, however, I started out by agreeing with ... eh... someone... that the exhausted mechanic is really boring in a crpg. Everything about GM and player agency was just us wandering off from that point.
I do not feel there is a need for the exhaust mechanic, purely from being "tired" in a crpg. It adds nothing in this case, even if it is 2 seconds or clicking a (f**ing) bedroll.

I would love to talk about roleplaying, GMing and player agency with you some more, just not in the long rest thread smile

Edit: Would just like to point out I did not ask you if you had been a GM because of anything negative. Nothing here have been hostile from my side so far.

Last edited by Cirolle; 06/03/20 10:44 PM.