Originally Posted by Wormerine
I am just in favour of trying to use precise descriptors for the sake of the argument.


I applaud you for that. But in this case, I don't think the descriptions you linked are actually helping to clear things up. I think the misunderstanding is a lot deeper than terminology can resolve and honestly.

Originally Posted by Wormerine
I apologise if I came out condecending or/and longwinded.


Same. No offense taken, no offense intended.