Originally Posted by Raze
Originally Posted by TadasGa
Given the choice between "open borders" — a position that no mainstream political leaders are proposing

Not by that name. Democrats in the US have been claiming fences are racist for the last 3 years, though, and deportations inhumane, etc (but fine under Obama). During one of the early leadership debates, all 10 candidates raised their hand to providing health care to illegal immigrants. I assume they will flip back to the secure boarder position, or at least dial back the rhetoric, due to covid-19, but they were leaning pretty open boarder.


Originally Posted by TadasGa
When someone is saying please no politics it's more than likely code - "please no minorities ok ty?"

This assumes there is little or no reason to not want politics in entertainment (including the hamfisted, preachy kind).
Were this true, there would be backlash with 'minority' characters in games that did not insert politics.



Originally Posted by Sordak
I am against minorities within my fantasy setting if they dont make sense within the world.

It depends on the setting, and how it is done; personally I don't mind the odd black viking or white samurai if the story/setting isn't suppose to be historically accurate (half the population is a little hard to justify, though).



Originally Posted by TadasGa
why is Tracer a lesbian

Apparently she isn't in the Chinese localization.

Originally Posted by TadasGa
If the thought is "I don't want poorly written characters whose only character trait is that they are minority and they don't fit in story or context". I agree. I don't want characters like that either.

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were "more than likely" a bigot. biggrin

Originally Posted by TadasGa
BUT well written inclusive characters do make the game better.

Has anyone complained about well written inclusive characters? The politics people complain about in entertainment are the not-well-written kind.



Believing you shouldn't just let a illegal immigrant die from lack of medical attention doesn't mean someone supports open borders, it means setting humanitarian priorities. Maybe if America hadn't spent most of my life bragging about how great it was, the American Dream it wouldn't have gotten so my deseperate illegal immigrants.

I agree with you on no politics doesn't mean no minorities, a lot of folks that refused to watch the 2016 ghostbusters loved Black Panther. Folks that critize Star Trek: Discovery for being SJW (although it's not, it's just the bad PR that creates that impression) while equally or more diverse Orville doesn't provoke those critisms. Too many folks haven't learned it's more about the presentation then the existance of diversity. If you make your audience feel leactured and judged you will have a major problem on your hands.