Yep the good ole days of Wizards having to roll to see if they can learn a spell are in short supply nowadays.
This who balancing thing, and people wanting to do everything that everyone else can do at the expense of others shining moments are the bane of good roleplaying. (The way the identify spell works, there is no working to identify objects anymore. Just hand them everything to them, there is no discovery about the item anymore.)
Everyone wants to Min Max their characters, they want that 20 in there main attribute. There is no room for that character to grow later. He is at his peak when they start.
