Originally Posted by Sordak
note that warlock isnt TERRIBLE in nwn2.
the biggest nerf they gave the NWN2 warlock is making the default outfit look less slutty after the expansions


No? No Eldritch Glaive as on P&P, a single summon with the dead walk, no teleport, no invocation to transform enemy into toads, and the most iconic greater invocation, chilling tentacles is trash. Even the DC of Eldritch Blast is bugged making more likely that enemies will not fail the save. Is clearly the most nerfed class ever.

Chilling tentacles on P&P = Caster Level + 8 BAB, grapple enemies and deals bludgeoning + cold damage ignoring spell reistance.
Chilling tentacles on nwn2 = A fix +5 to hit and after hit allows a save

Anything with more than 25 AC(which is not rare on 3.5e) is immune to the most iconic warlock invocation.

Epic warlocks also lacks a lot of feats like Eldritch Sculptor and master of elements.

NWN1 - PRC did a good job with warlock. You can for eg

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Originally Posted by TheAscendent
YoNWN2 is the game that really made me fall in love with the class. (...) Using the magic of dark entities rather than the vanilla Weave really drew my attention. Also the fact that the Goddess of Magic keeps dying. I'll happily serve Asmodeus than whomever takes up the next mantle of magical goddess.


You are extremely wrong. You are not drawning the power from Asmodeus. WARLOCKS AREN'T CLERICS. Is not the case in any edition. They are more akin to master and apprentices than to someone who draws the power from their master.

Since the class conception as a wizard kit on 2e. The Complete Wizard's Handbook - page 65

"The Witch kit cannot be abandoned. If a Witch manages to sever all ties with the entities responsible for her instruction (usually requiring the power of a wish or its equivalent), she loses two experience levels. (...)"

And in any edition, anti magical fields also works against warlocks. So they use the weave like any caster. I don't know why so many people sees warlocks as arcane clerics when they are more like a wizard with a outsider patron.

Last edited by SorcererVictor; 27/06/20 07:57 PM.