Originally Posted by SorcererVictor
Originally Posted by NinthPlane
Balance is overrated. As long as each class is fun I'm okay with it. I do agree that the Ranger is horrible in the PHB.


I agree that balance is overrated HOWEVER, think on someone who loves the class fantasy of a ranger, loves longbows, loves survivalism, loves the nature hunter archetype and wanna play 5e as one. Seeing wizards shaping the reality and stopping the time while he is completely useless is not fun or engaging. That would be very frustrating to him...

You're right. I think the ranger is a good example of a class that is so poor that it is not fun.