Originally Posted by qhristoff
Originally Posted by kanisatha
Originally Posted by qhristoff
BG and BG2 were 2e, as was IWD. IWD2 was 3e, as was NWN. ToEE was 3.5, as is the upcoming Realms Beyond. BG3 and Solasta are the first games using 5e.

You forgot NwN2, also 3.5e.

Realms Beyond and Solasta use the D20 SRD but do NOT use D&D settings or lore. So for me they're not *true* D&D games.

Would you say that about any D&D game that doesn't use an officially licensed setting? like .. 80% of games and campaigns made by players for their own tables?

And no, I didn't forget NwN2. But we all ought to.

No, a "homebrew" TT D&D game is still a D&D game. But (a) for me personally, and (b) in a VIDEO game (I don't have much interest in TT gaming anymore), I play the game much more so for the setting and the lore and much less so for the game mechanics. I think for all of us, whether we consciously think of it or not, it is the setting of a cRPG that is the starting point, the foundation for whether we end up liking the game or not. I have said in previous posts that my dislike of D:OS begins with my utter dislike of the Rivellon setting, and that is what--I feel--then cascades down into dislike of a bunch of other things about the game. This is not a putdown of Larian. These things are entirely subjective. There are a LOT of people out there who absolutely hate the Forgotten Realms setting. I however, absolutely love that setting. So the very reason for me to play a D&D videogame is NOT for the D&D mechanics or rules (which btw I actually dislike; I find the D20 system to be archaic and stupid) but rather for the game being set in the Forgotten Realms and involving a bunch of FR lore (being that I'm an FR lore junkie smile ).

As for NwN2, I guess we will politely agree to disagree. For me, NwN1 sucks, whereas NwN2 is the best D&D game after the BG games.