Originally Posted by Stabbey

Yes, everyone likes more content. But we don't yet know how much content those 10 levels contains, nor how many more man-hours of time it would take to add enough content for players to reach levels 10-15. You, yourself, just said "Even on BG2 for eg, takes more XP to go from lv 11 to 12 than from 1 to 11 as a mage".



Except that you start at lv 7 on BG2, almost lv 8 and and if you are soloing, can get animate dead(a tier 5 spell for arcane casters on 2e) and reach lv 10 at the end of the introductory dungeon. I soloed BG2:EE on Legacy of Bhaal difficulty(which only 0,4% of players completed the game in that difficulty)

Anyway, here is the mage XP table. Unless you are soloing or with a extremely small party, you will not get Stop Time and similar spells on SoA, only on ToB.
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Originally Posted by Stabbey

Yes, I think "close-minded and childish" is a pretty spot-on description.


We have gameplays about BG3 and I know a lot of information about PF:WoTR alpha + the information about mythic paths that OwlCat reveled.

If having a preference for doing cool stuff in RPG's is "close minded and childish", then I an. I enjoy using powerful steampunk on steampunk games, powerful magic in high magic games and powerful firearms in sci-fi games.

Some people prefer if you could only cast magic missile on D&D and if you on fallout new vegas, din't had all cool firearms and limited you to a .38 special revolver... I love using the .45-70 brush gun, put hollow point ammo and see the wild animal heads explode, put .50 BMG high explosive ammo in the anti materiel rifle and obliterate armored robots across montains of distance, just like I love to cast Stop Time and similar powerful spells in a high fantasy game.

That said, I an not saying that I will not play BG3. Only that it would probably the third most expected RPG that I wanna play losing to a game which will have high level and a "better" ruleset(better imo) and a cyberpunk game. How many times since we got a RPG which allow lichdoom? The last decent was Might & Magic 8 - Day of The destroyer(20 years ago). And how much time since the last decent cyberpunk game? Or shooter RPG? The last good cyberpunk game was System Shock 2 and the last good shooter RPG was Fallout new Vegas. All recent 4k/Bugthesda games are trash.

Originally Posted by Tarorn
(...)but i do agree as long as they dont gimp/nerf iconic higher level monsters - like in sword coast legends where you take on a lich at level 6 odd ....never in a million years could you survive that..

Iow to mid level campaigns can be great - bring it on !


Sword Coast Legends is the greatest bastarization of D&D ruleset ever. They took alway skill checks and spell slots in favor of cooldowns... In order to become a Lich, you need to be able to cast tier 9 spells and fullfil much more harsh requirements.

Hell, the Dread Necromancer 3.5e class only allow you to attain lichdoom at lv 20. And on 5e is even more complex.



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