Here's a series of quotes of Raze's replies, to contextualize as you've conveniently refrained from telling both sides of the story to aid your own argument. These are to clarify what you refer to as provoking, reason-avoiding and denial. I will make sure to include some of your personal insults and offensive remarks as well, that you seem to have an issue with others using, but not yourself.
Your ill remarks that are either aggressive, insulting, or meaning ill on someone else:
I really hope your game will sell ZERO in Italy, and I will make my best to make this dream come true.
This reads as both ill will and a threat.
I wish many unpayed jobs in your future
Again, an ill-wish on someone else.
Your answer is simply not human, stupid and not receivable. Shame on you.
Every answer is human, if it was written by a human. You're insulting another person by denying their humanity. Women often experience this by sexual objectification. This behaviour isn't very much better.
And I am talking about the job to be human, before being a moderator. You fail in both, anyway.
Again with the insults. How does this help, and how does it make you any better, than anyone you have complaints about?
The following are Raze's responses to you in its entirety, that you deem provocative, reason-avoiding and 'denial'.
Your cold, false and arrogant answer bring your company's reputation even more shame.
Nothing I wrote was false or arrogant. As for cold: I checked on the situation, reported back and tried to explain the situation and the development process. If that is unacceptable, I fail to see how getting emotional would help.
I really hope your game will sell ZERO in Italy, and I will make my best to make this dream come true.
If you were to be slightly more "cold" you might consider if that would make an Italian localisation more or less likely after release.
I wish many unpayed jobs in your future
I did quite a bit of free beta testing in the past, and have had my creative work included in the commercial release of a software product without additional compensation. That did not entitle me to anything beyond the terms of the beta tests, and when products/companies were sold to other companies, they were not under any obligation to continue those test groups or the original company to provide additional compensation. I chose to do what I did and knew what the terms were.
I was also part of the group that made the
Beyond Divinity Strategy Guide, also an unpaid fan project, which was eventually added to GOG's extra downloads for the game.
If and when I retire, I will likely still hang around the Larian forum helping other players without pay, like I did for a decade before Larian hired me.
You get worse and worse every answer you give.
Care to address any actual points, or just throw insults?
It really seems that you don't care at all of the entire italian community.
I am certainly sympathetic to your situation (I've had things I was looking forward be cancelled or altered, etc), but that doesn't change the circumstances.
perfectly fits the disonesty of the exploiting the workers giving the RIDICOLOUS explanation "I was exploited in the past, I knew the rules and I submit to them"..
I was not exploited. I did stuff as a hobby that I enjoyed doing, where everyone involved was entirely upfront.
The people who worked on the D:OS 2 localisation were autonomous, rational individuals, capable of deciding whether to help with the project and how much time they were willing to invest. The fact that a future game will not have an official Italian localisation at release does not mean that the people that worked on the D:OS 2 project were retroactively exploited. They did not work on the project with a promise of guaranteed localisations in the future, and never brought up such conditions when dealing with the legalities of the official release.
considerating also the refuse by the community manager to take actions against Tuco that was trolling
If that was the ban line, many other people would have been banned, as well.
Quite a shameful image Liaran is offering to the public.
I assume you are advocating for censorship only against people you disagree with? Have you consider that in a forum where posts are moderated for content, everyone venting about their anger / disappointment on this subject could easily be banned? Offence and trolling are very subjective, and at the best of times would be applied unequally.
Maybe you ignore that "free speech" is not total.
No, generally that is assumed to be the case when talking about free speech. Very few people think fraud, etc, should be classified as speech.
Have you ever heard about Popper's paradox of the tolerance, anyway?
Yes, I have, and I've seen the full passage, which is rather different than some people try to promote (that it is necessary to be intolerant) from the short version.
“I do not imply for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force...”
Thus far, force has not been required for suppression.
And I am talking about the job to be human, before being a moderator. You fail in both, anyway.
You do realise, if I adopted your advice for moderating the forum, you would be banned, right?
Do something that make you seem a moderator.
The situation with Tuco is over. He stopped. There is no need for further moderation.
And lastly, an attempt to defuse the persistent wishes to continue beating a dead horse;
A mildly insulting comment hardly rises to the level of attempted murder.
Consider fight outside a bar, if you want a real world analogy: if nobody is seriously hurt, and no property damage, police can tell people to break it up and go home, without arresting anyone. Same for letting a speeder or someone with a broken taillight off with a warning.
In any case, I fail to see how discussing this further would be productive, even if it wasn't off topic.
So I have one question:
How are you any better than how you describe Tuco?
