Pbrosio (and Squesing);
If I was moderating in an unprofessional way, there would be a lot more banning going on.
The point of bringing up that the proposed modding would ban a lot of others, including the one doing most of the advocating, was twofold:
A) It would not create the effect you desire. There are very often unintended consequences to censorship, and there are lots of cases where people advocating for it eventually have it used against them.
Also, banned people never change their minds. If you ban someone, they go somewhere where they will not be banned for what they say, which can lead to radicalisation. Using social pressure to discourage the applicable behaviour can and has gotten people to change.
B) By demonstrating that it is possible to ignore insults, I was hoping others would also do so.
Tuco's posts do not matter. At most he should be some jerk on the internet to you, annoying but soon forgotten. You are wasting your time (and mine) obsessing over a trivial insult. You are trying to give his words far more meaning than they deserve.
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Pbrosio (e Squesing);
Se stessi moderando in modo non professionale, ci sarebbero molti più divieti in corso.
Lo scopo di far notare che il modding proposto avrebbe vietato molti altri, incluso quello che fa la maggior parte della difesa, era duplice:
A) Non creerebbe l'effetto che desideri. Ci sono molto spesso conseguenze non intenzionali per la censura e ci sono molti casi in cui le persone che la sostengono alla fine la usano contro di loro.
Inoltre, le persone bandite non cambiano idea. Se metti al bando qualcuno, va da qualche parte dove non sarà bandito per quello che dice, il che può portare alla radicalizzazione. Usare la pressione sociale per scoraggiare il comportamento applicabile può e ha portato le persone a cambiare.
B) Dimostrando che è possibile ignorare gli insulti, speravo che lo facessero anche altri.
I post di Tuco non contano. Al massimo dovrebbe essere un idiota su Internet per te, fastidioso ma presto dimenticato. Stai sprecando il tuo tempo (e il mio) ossessionato da un insulto banale. Stai cercando di dare alle sue parole molto più significato di quanto meritino.
There are a lot of ways you can moderate badly: ban too much is as bad as never banning.
Anyway I already said that the important is that the hate speech content should be canceled. If you don't want to ban Tuco, as would have happened in ANY decently moderated forum, you can only edit his comments. Delete the discriminating content is actually the minimum you should do. And no, if you adopt the criteria of banning racist and discriminating comment there was not any other ban to do in that thread. Sure there was anger and sarcasm and some insult there, but NONE regarding any form of discrimination against minorities, which is something you seem even not able to recognize (you always go on a "denial of evidence mode" every time). The best hypothesis is that you are biased, I don't mention the worst...
Tuco is not changing his trivial and primitive ideas neither if you ban or not, but it is important the message you throw to all other users. The message should be that no autism discrimination is tolerated here. By now, I have to sadly confirm that you are making ANYTHING to tolerate this shitty content.
I am not obsessed by the insult itself, I am "obsessed" by your childish refuse to take responsability and appropriate actions for what happen in this forum. Just stop a moment and think honestly about your behaviour.
