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Sure is a great sign of a healthy and well-moderated forum when the mentally ill are allowed to self-bump their own troll threads in general chat all day, yessirree.

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Originally Posted by Deemer
Sure is a great sign of a healthy and well-moderated forum when the mentally ill are allowed to self-bump their own troll threads in general chat all day, yessirree.

Enough of that, please.


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Sure is a great sign of a healthy and well-moderated forum when the mentally ill are allowed to self-bump their own troll threads in general chat all day, yessirree.

But when I make a thread they lock it...

The Ending EA thread of mine which is linked in my signature.

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This thread does need to be moderated and locked. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Languid Lizard
Very rapidly after meeting the staunch Feminist Githankiess, I rapidly opted to permanently terminate her ride on the ship. Has anybody been able to throw her overboard or push her off the boat using a spell of some kind?


All companions in this game are kind of dicky, except Wyll though I haven't interacted with him so much. Larian's goal seemed to be a party full of constant conflict. I inherently dislike Shadowheart and I could never trust her in my party considering she is so openly displayed as a Sharran, and well, she calls herself Shadowheart. I don't particularly like Lae'zel either, but as others have stated, she's not a feminist, if anything she's a race supremacist.

All that said, either you are trolling or you need serious help. Maybe if you didn't act like a creepy incel you'd have better luck with women.



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Originally Posted by someoneinatree
This thread does need to be moderated and locked. Thanks!


Naw, seems like just moving it to the suggestions and feedback forum from general is about all we're getting. What standards!

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This thread does need to be moderated and locked. Thanks!


Naw, seems like just moving it to the suggestions and feedback forum from general is about all we're getting. What standards!

Posting stuff that's in questionable taste isn't breaking any rules. My personal feelings on the matter isn't a good enough reason to lock threads.

Insulting people is, however, so less throwing around "incel" and "mentally ill", please.


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Very rapidly after meeting the staunch Feminist Githankiess, I rapidly opted to permanently terminate her ride on the ship. Has anybody been able to throw her overboard or push her off the boat using a spell of some kind?


All companions in this game are kind of dicky, except Wyll though I haven't interacted with him so much. Larian's goal seemed to be a party full of constant conflict. I inherently dislike Shadowheart and I could never trust her in my party considering she is so openly displayed as a Sharran, and well, she calls herself Shadowheart. I don't particularly like Lae'zel either, but as others have stated, she's not a feminist, if anything she's a race supremacist.

All that said, either you are trolling or you need serious help. Maybe if you didn't act like a creepy incel you'd have better luck with women.




You are my hero Goldberry, I agree on all points. I noticed the same thing, constant conflict no matter what combination of NPCs I put in my party, The best I could achieve was parity (half for, half against) and nothing close to consensus. I am not looking forward to fifty hours with these NPCs as they are portrayed in the early release. Some are tolerable, but most are annoying and not worth the trouble of emotionally babysitting. Hopefully there will be hirelings or the ability to draft our own henchmen as a work around.

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You are my hero Goldberry, I agree on all points. I noticed the same thing, constant conflict no matter what combination of NPCs I put in my party, The best I could achieve was parity (half for, half against) and nothing close to consensus. I am not looking forward to fifty hours with these NPCs as they are portrayed in the early release. Some are tolerable, but most are annoying and not worth the trouble of emotionally babysitting. Hopefully there will be hirelings or the ability to draft our own henchmen as a work around.

I'm trying to like them, but it's... well, it's a bit like having a bunch of Morrigans in tow. I guess I'm going to have to put up with a certain degree of "xxx disapproves" because I'm trying to balance the urgency of not being a brain sandwich with not being completely mercenary about everyone I encounter. Though given my "1337 combat skillz" I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be kinder to not involve myself in other people's problems as I seem to end up getting them killed. But at least I meant well! etc.


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You are my hero Goldberry, I agree on all points. I noticed the same thing, constant conflict no matter what combination of NPCs I put in my party, The best I could achieve was parity (half for, half against) and nothing close to consensus. I am not looking forward to fifty hours with these NPCs as they are portrayed in the early release. Some are tolerable, but most are annoying and not worth the trouble of emotionally babysitting. Hopefully there will be hirelings or the ability to draft our own henchmen as a work around.

I'm trying to like them, but it's... well, it's a bit like having a bunch of Morrigans in tow. I guess I'm going to have to put up with a certain degree of "xxx disapproves" because I'm trying to balance the urgency of not being a brain sandwich with not being completely mercenary about everyone I encounter. Though given my "1337 combat skillz" I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be kinder to not involve myself in other people's problems as I seem to end up getting them killed. But at least I meant well! etc.


Same. I'm enjoying the game, I have all companions recruited and I'm giving everyone a fair shot, that's part of exploring the game for me, and I can't say that I'm not enjoying it even if they're all on the edgy side.

That said it'd be cool if once they add the rest of the classes we get 1 or 2 more companions, maybe a little more grounded and light-hearted :'D

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I really think that the companions come across as dicks because, well, they're under a lot of stress with this worm crawling around in their heads.
There's a sense of urgency and immediacy that's putting all of them on edge. Not everyone deals with stress that well, especially not when facing what's essentially a death sentence.
I think that once you really stop to consider the urgency of the situation and can sympathize with them that they'll seem less like edgelords, and more like people who got sucked up by a giant space squid, violated, and had a time-bomb strapped inside of their skulls and are just trying to cope with it.

And yeeeah... this post is really weird and I wish we had better filtering options besides "Ignore" which effectively does nothing useful.


I don't want to fall to bits 'cos of excess existential thought.

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I actually liked Morrigan, although that could be because I didn't use her often. I pretty much stuck to Shale, the Dog and Wynne. Maybe I am something of a prude but I just don't get the RPG romance stuff and tend to drop any NPC that flirts with me. Especially if they push it far enough that I have to endure some trite conversation where I have to completely shut them down . .Or, in the case of Pillars of Eternity 2, dropping the game after the entire crew aboard my ship began taking turns knocking on my cabin door every night.

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Hah... yea. While I tend to have a problem with clumsy ideology pushing in modern games, I don't think it's Larian's fault here. I mean, Gith are all haughty pricks and Shar priestesses are usually selfish b*tches, lusting for power, so, how else could they depicted them? I think it comes more down to the choice of NPCs they gave us in the EA then anything...

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The female companions (and all of the companions for that matter, including the "gay vampire") are written fine as far as I, a boy who hangs out with a bunch of boys in circles composed of almost solely males, am concerned, with realistic responses to the stress and trauma that's happened to them in roughly less than 48 hours following their abduction, infestation, and crash. Like Tzelanit mentioned, the sense of urgency of the situation is put into greater perspective and made into a much more impactful narrative tool when its something that influences their own ambitions and moods. And I could honestly want nothing more than characters whose moods, desires, and focuses represent that of the situations they find themselves in, not just the outlines of their personalities.

I'll also throw my hat in that I whole-heartedly believe this post was made in bad faith, and that Larian's moderation decisions concerning it are also 'questionable' in their own right.

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Originally Posted by Stringbean

I'll also throw my hat in that I whole-heartedly believe this post was made in bad faith, and that Larian's moderation decisions concerning it are also 'questionable' in their own right.


It's an outright troll post, one of several threads made in the same day, and kept getting bumped up to the top of the forum by the OP, which would warrant immediate address by any even halfway competent moderator. Shame we got none of those, so let's just keep bumping it! Trolling and questionable taste for everyone! It fits the tone of the era, at least.

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Originally Posted by Tzelanit
I think that once you really stop to consider the urgency of the situation and can sympathize with them that they'll seem less like edgelords, and more like people who got sucked up by a giant space squid, violated, and had a time-bomb strapped inside of their skulls and are just trying to cope with it.


Not really. I do not refer to them as edgelords because of that, only because of their backgrounds. Their backgrounds are all very extreme and flamboyant. You have the over the top vampire, the bitchy sharran, the bitchy alien, the one becoming a 'destroyer of world's, and Wyll seems the most balanced but I honesly haven't interacted with him much yet, it's on my to-do list.
All those things are fine, my only problem with it is that they are all leaning towards the darker shade of grey, with a notorious absense of a more simple, humble companion to even things out. They're all competing for the spotlight, so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Goldberry
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I think that once you really stop to consider the urgency of the situation and can sympathize with them that they'll seem less like edgelords, and more like people who got sucked up by a giant space squid, violated, and had a time-bomb strapped inside of their skulls and are just trying to cope with it.


Not really. I do not refer to them as edgelords because of that, only because of their backgrounds. Their backgrounds are all very extreme and flamboyant. You have the over the top vampire, the bitchy sharran, the bitchy alien, the one becoming a 'destroyer of world's, and Wyll seems the most balanced but I honesly haven't interacted with him much yet, it's on my to-do list.
All those things are fine, my only problem with it is that they are all leaning towards the darker shade of grey, with a notorious absense of a more simple, humble companion to even things out. They're all competing for the spotlight, so to speak.


I actually really like that dynamic. I’m so used to being The one and only main character in RPGs: the hero, the chosen one, the decider, the gravitational center that swoops up people into his orbit merely by walking into the room.

There is something I find refreshing about being a member of a team of A-type personalities who are are all competing for the spotlight. It’s got kind of an Avengers feel to it. I liked it in DOS2 and the novelty hasn’t sworn off in BG3.

That said, I’m looking forward to seeing the good companions when Larian releases them. While I’m sure they will be just as bombastic, I’m also certain that they will be more affable, too.

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I honestly like all the companions so far, though Astarion is my least favourite. Even then I enjoy his character dynamic and the way he wants to control the tadpole because it makes perfect sense given his backgroud; he's a vampite spawn, he's used to being infected by something considered evil and then learning to live with it and make it a strength. I actually like Lae-zel quite a lot and she's one of my favourites alongside Wyll. Her interactions with Shadowheart are quite interesting, though I will admit that I hope there's opportunities as the game goes on to get some sense of greater harmony in the party as things go on. They don't have to all get along, but at least build up a mutual respect and have them stop sniping at each other, because having to deal with that for a whole game might get tiring.

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Um, she is being very vocal about not wanting to be left to her fate in that tank. Doesnt seem very unreasonable to me.

Anyway you do know you have the option to just kill her on sight later right? wink

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Last night, my mind was full of dreams at the campsite. I stood near Shadowheart, and though she was asleep on the ground, I kept casting Grease spells on her. Strange. What could it mean...?

A full day of adventuring lies ahead. Perhaps more will be revealed.

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