Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Please have more faith in 5e rules

Generally agree, BUT ...

a) In 5e, terrain conditions like elevated ground can give Advantage, but it is a DM's call. So Larian is not really bending the rules here.

b) the percentage to hit is a nice feature / much easier to evaluate. At best, there could be an option to show the rolls over AC.

The game still uses di rolls to determine the hit. You can see this in game by clicking the tiny arrow on the bottom left. It shows your chance to hit in percentage, but you can see what the game actually rolled and verify it was indeed a di roll. I THINK it also shows enemy AC there, but I can't remember 100% if the AC is part of what it shows or not.

I am a big fan of the Baldur's Gate games and the Divinity games. I also regularly play tabletop 5e.

It seem to me like Larian doesn't really understand the appeal of tabletop 5e and isn't giving it a chance.

It feels like they are trying to adapt Divinity rules with a 5e paint job rather than starting with 5e rules and working from there. It was mentioned early on that they didn't think people like to miss so they added a bunch of extra rules to improve hit rates or give advantage.

The problem with meddling with 5e rules that it unbalances things. Elevation bonuses benefit ranged characters, but punishes melee. Then more rules need to be added to counter the other rules and more and more. Jumping/Disengage as a bonus action spits on the rogue and monk who lose a class feature.

It isn't necessary. Playing on a tabletop it doesn't feel like you are always missing, there's bounded accuracy and monsters designed to be either low AC/high Hp or higher AC/low hp.

I also think that if instead of showing a percentage attack change and people goiing "HoW cOuLd i MiSs aT 99%?!" just show the roll. It gives more feedback than just hit/miss. Missing three times in a row could be rolls of 1, 2. 3 or 8, 9, 10. It just feels better when you miss by less.

I think that Larian has made everything much harder for themselves trying to balance things and could potentially alienate fans of the 5e ruleset by having things that would never appear in tabletop play.

An example that bugged me was an open wound disease that over a few turns progressed into a disease that gave vulnerability to all damage that required a second level spell to remove at level 3 play. Diseases are relatively rare in 5e, and usually progress over days, not seconds. it shouldn't be a thing that every trap does.

Anyway, that's just my thoughts.

I also think that if instead of showing a percentage attack change and people goiing "HoW cOuLd i MiSs aT 99%?!" just show the roll. It gives more feedback than just hit/miss. Missing three times in a row could be rolls of 1, 2. 3 or 8, 9, 10. It just feels better when you miss by less.

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I wouldn't mind if they moved things more back in the direction of the standard rules. It doesn't have to be an exact match.

I don't mind things like Firebolt lighting someone standing in oil on fire. I do mind Ray of Frost targeting a person, dealing damage, creating ice on bare ground beneath them, then they immediately go prone.

I would not mind Fighters getting Shove as a bonus action. Shove being a bonus action for every single class is far too strong.
The similar thing with Jump/Disengage. It's too easy to avoid AoO.

This game isn't DND, and doesn't have to follow the ruleset and it's their choice. Larian have creative freedom, and after playing DOS2 quite a lot i think they know what they are doing and have faith. Trust the method behind the madness, but understand no matter which way they go, not everyone will be happy and if you come to the game expecting a 1:1 DND clone you've already set yourself up for disappointment.

This game isn't DND, and doesn't have to follow the ruleset and it's their choice.

Attack rolls vs. AC basically is a % chance... still, I don't like seeing it like that, to be honst. It should be completely optional. D&D games usually don't deal in %, unlike say, the Fallout series. It's a game of optimizing your character, and meeting each new enemy without knowing your chances.

Shove is an optional attack action, I think it should be implemented as it works in the rules. This already makes it more relevant formartial classes since they get extra attacks as they level up, while a rogue would haveto chose to forego their one and only attack to shove someone.

I love they shove is in the game, but it shouldnt be so freely acessible that it becomes a nobrainer to always shove every tuyrn you have an oportunity to do so. It just becomes silly like the jump thing. You get further if you jump so a lot of the time jumping is a free movement boost and makes the oportunity attack rules almost irrelevant.

Attack rolls vs. AC basically is a % chance... still, I don't like seeing it like that, to be honst. It should be completely optional. D&D games usually don't deal in %, unlike say, the Fallout series. It's a game of optimizing your character, and meeting each new enemy without knowing your chances.