Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Latest News Hotfix #3 - Theft, Death & Hubris

We’re back with the third hotfix today, addressing a few crash scenarios that definitely aren’t supposed to happen. We also have for you a Frankenstein amalgamation of crowd-sourced character creation, and boy does it look boring!

Firstly, yesterday as a joke we asked you to send us a 3080, because they were too popular for us to buy one (which prevented us from testing those cards internally before launch - all fixed now!). Quite a few of you reached out with sincere requests for how to do that. That was very sweet, thank you for those messages. Keep them! They’re yours.
Besides, without your graphics card, how are you going to play BG3?

Before the fixes, let’s share something you’ve created yourselves (this is your own fault) through your choices in character creation. We took the most popular choices in character creation, and recreated this. We thought our analytics system wasn’t working! We checked. It is.



Congratulations, you’ve basically made the default Vault Dweller. What the hell guys. We gave you demon eyes, horns, and even tails. We are sorely disappointed. Go crazy. We worked hard on this!

We’ve got a lot more analytics that run in the background. We’ll share more insights and data in the next Community Update, but for now, you should know that it’s not just bug reports that help us solve issues and improve the game, we have a system of anonymous analytics running in the background that show us a lot about how the game is played, and thus how we can improve it. Simply playing BG3 makes it better for you now, and everyone else in the future.

One important thing this hotfix has solved is the resolution upon the death of Gale. Those who’ve let Gale die may have found that an important item is missing, which is required. That’s back! So, which was it? "K'ha'trach'ash'ssji", "K'ha'ash'ssji'trach", or the easier to pronounce “K'ha'ssji'trach'ash”? Only Gale lovers will know.

Also, we fixed an error where people were stealing from merchants by directly equipping the stolen items out of their inventory. Hubris! It’s in the title!

We still currently recommend you play the game on DX11 mode if you experience frequent crashing, or graphical errors. But they should be reduced now. The next big patch will include a host of fixes for cinematics and animation as well as UI glitches, and a community update diving into the game’s launch.

Don’t forget to read the EULA
Better the Devil you do know, eh.

FAQ attached here, updated with new workarounds and known issues: https://larian.com/support/baldur-s-gate-3

Fixes attached y’all:

• Fix for crash related to showing a move preview with an AoO when in combat.
• Fix for crash related to surfaces requiring concentration.
• Fix for crash related to drag and drop of items in the trade inventory.
• Gale's Scroll of Resurrection is now correctly added to the player's inventory.

Nice, another fast fixes! I hope as soon as you sort out the technical stuff, you'll adress gameplay issues, that majority of the community would love to be reworked/removed.

I know you did work hard to implement the character creator. The face capture is really cool and adds some depth to the character creator. The problem is that your character creator is still very shallow as it stands. You did give us horns....for the tiefling (and tails). The demon eyes are cool, but it might be telling that people aren't taking the time to peruse these option because we are testing the game. If I could give my elf a beard and some horns I would. I'd even slap deer antlers on their head if that was an option. One day I also hope to be able to make my elf fat and short too. Or make my female Drow so chiseled she would place first in a bodybuilding competition.

The character creation LOOKs amazing. It is beautiful. The number of hair style blew me away. I was floored as that never happens. As I stated before, the face capture is amazing. More of that please. I love seeing the humanity in these humanoids. Just don't chastise us for not picking these "cool" options when they are only available in one place for one race. Also people reaaaallly like Elves.

maybe you over estimated how many people actually want to play tiefliings?

I think the "issue" is probably mostly that races have very specific stat bonuses and classes are stat-dependent. So basically, why play a Tiefling unless you want to play a Warlock? Sure you could also go Wizard, or Fighter if you take the Zariel variant, but then you can just as well play a human and get 3 additional stat bonuses. It's either that, our build your character sub-optimally

I think the only solution here is to train the analytic system to identify boring characters, and let the game automatically reject them when a user wants to lock them in, and also immediately shuffle all their values around.

I would have totally made a kobold or a minotaur if they were available! I went with a Female dwarf with a beard instead! lets get even more races please and thanks! Also keep up the great work you are doing I love it so far!

I'm looking forward to the next community update, I'm curious what the aales across platforms has been like.

That sounded extremely rude, Larian. Let people make who they want.

Optional racial features, like free skill training and armor-weapon proficiences ( Armor for dwarves, perception and swords and bows for elves, sneak for halflings, etc ) darkvision, free spell-like abilities or free spells like the ones the gith and high elves get, features like the superb halfling "lucky" have, etc etc usually outclass the stats of the humans for most of the builds; since humans have none.

I think choosing human is more a rpg/preference decision, because mechanically usually there are races better suited for your class.

I've seen some of my friends make the greatest looking dwarves and tieflings (although some have their fingers crossed for orcs being available in the future)! Absolutely LOVE being able to play more than just a human in an RPG.

I'm excited to see what else the character creator will offer in the future!!!

Human has always been the majority choice in RPGs the metrics has been known for a while. I recall well over 80% of all dragon age origin characters where human. Which is why Dragon age 2 was human only. Bioware learned that when given a choice people pick human, when not given a choice more people will scream blue murder and claim up and down that they always play X race and number of people claiming this surpasses the number of all non human races played combined, let alone their claimed chosen race.

So does this mean that Gale doesn't show up in camp in his skivvies anymore (if he got mad at you and left)? I mean the guy is ripped for a mage but its getting kind of embarrassing when your are trying to sleep and he's... just... there. in the background. Not pleasant dreams. ;-)

Praying for more performance-related fixes.

Except that almost no classes can make much use out of those extra 3 stat bonuses, and humans get absolutely nothing else of value, so it is at least a little strange that human is the most picked.

my vault dweller is differant!
its a half elf instead of straight human.

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yeah sorry the rest is basically identical..

but hey, im going to do another character since i have clear the entire first map now.
then i might buy Divinity OS II, and play that untill more is avilable in BG3:EA.

oh and btw, you might want to look into the telepathic pull tadpole power, right positioning it is a guaranteed one shot vs some bosses.

I am happy to hear that people prefer grounded characters. Nothing is special and unique when everything is special and unique, this is the great failing of Pathfinder, most MMO's and the growing direction of D&D. I have to be honest, the tremendous number of Tieflings in that starter town doesn't bother me, but the fact that they are just plain humans who look different does. I found that to be pretty uninteresting.

Any time you write a character, you need to ask why it can't be a human. If you can't justify it, you're making the special race you chose less interesting as a whole.

Fantasy works best when the consumer's perspective is given some normalcy to explore an abnormal world. When the consumer, be it reader, viewer, or player is already the most special and unique thing about the setting, there's nothing terribly interesting left to tell as far as a story goes. That's why grounded protagonists are better, and why you're going to see more grounded characters.

Hey wondering if GOG is behind with updates as I cannot locate the 3rd hotfix on the galaxy installer?

It was like 2 hours behind with the announcement for me, yes. But it's up now.

Nothing bland about my character.....the only issue with me is that way too many of my RPG characters are red-headed women . Maybe its an addiction or some such?

Well for pure number crunching, in point buy the human is king. In this game you can have 3 16s only as a human. So best con, best dex and best main stat (I can not make an 18 at start no matter what I do). I still never play them, but that *may* have a bit to do with them being so popular.

Normally I would be playing a halfling, but every since D&D moved them closer to hobbits again I hate the pudgy with big head look of them (males). The gnome I met in game looked pretty cool, bit fat hands but build was good, maybe in this game I will play a gnome when they get added. So far I have made Tiefling Wizard and Warlock, Half Elf Ranger, Gith Fighter and an Elf Rogue.

Firstly I feel like people are taking Larian's tone a bit too seriously; I think they're just trying to tease us and have a little joke.




Now as to this point, I think that you're being way too narrow-minded in your approach. Firstly they're tieflings because an incident in the town they come from made people stop trusting them, because their town got dragged literally into hell after it was sold to a demon. So no, they can't be human. Secondly, human shouldn't just be the default in fantasy. Because one of the most fun things you can do in fantasy is explore a world where humanity isn't the default. If you start creating every character by asking "why isn't this person human?" then you're starting from a flawed premise. If what you described is what you like in fantasy, I hope you find plenty of stuff to enjoy. But if things getting more fantastical is the growing trend, then that's probably because it's what most people want. I for instance never play human characters if I have the option not to, because I don't want to be the default. I don't even play elves or dwarves most of the time because they're still the "default" fantastical races.

Listen, I'm sure that it has nothing to do with statistical values or that the other races are not interesting enough. My theory is, that most people want to project themselves into the fantasy world, and they do that by modelling their character after something, that resembles them, or whatever they feel is "them", the most. In my eyes, a game like baldurs gate III, offers you a foreign world to explore, and for most people, they can gain the best understanding by beginning this exploration from a familiar perspective, namely their own.
I believe, that when the initial process of exploration is done and the interest in this world still remains high, that other races and perspectives start to get activated, and then we may see more variation in the algorithm.

Almost like people want to make DnD characters and not stupid monstrosities.

Also why are patch things not in the actual FEEDBACK forum? lol

Dear Jess,

We may be Vault Dwellers, but the companions so far aren't cut too far from the same cloth.
They're just a bunch of pretty boys and elves. Give us someone like Zevlor or another Beast as part of the flagship team,
because I don't see half the races used on the cover art.

Consider that of the FIVE followers we have there's only THREE different races used of the EIGHT available.
And no, I'm not counting High Half-Elf and High-Elf as two different races for this. We don't need 20 different characters to choose from
but someone that isn't pulled out of a Vogue or Glamour would be a nice change of pace

Can you share if we be getting any more companions to chose from once it's out of Early Access? I would kill for that Dwarf Romance that Dragon blue balled us with.
I hadn't heard anything on it, and there's plenty of characters we've met that could be potential followers. I have high hopes for what Larian could bring to the series
and I'm trying not to be too critical, but if you're gonna call us out for being basic I'd like to see some show-and-tell where you're all getting creative with this creator.

Respectfully,
A local adventurer

Edit: The post that this was responding to has been deleted.

Lmao, keep your buttcheeks together, it was a simple jest that he was poking us with, and there is absolutely no reason to get mad over it. The only thing that you are doing is making the dev studio regret to say anything else that isn't 100% neutered and automated corporate advertisement, and that's not ok with me, because I get a joke, and I enjoy having a studio engaging in banter with us, I think it's great! If you curb your outrage, maybe you'll get it too.

Wouldn't call it outrage. If it were, I'd be asking for my money back right now, like a self-righteous boycotter. I'd call it telling him personally to shove off combined with constructive criticism. The joke was in very poor taste. While even I understood it was a joke, it could have been put in a much better way that would have put the onus of the problem on the studio, rather than blaming their customers for doing what they want to do in a system designed for exactly that. Especially when such a joke, combined with the picture, comes close to implications that spark very contentious accusations.

If the studio should be allowed to be informal and joke around with us (and they should, imo), they should be prepared for equally informal roastings of how their jokes fall flat, push boundaries, and their systems are the cause of the very problem they bring up.

Right, you're totally calm and reasonable, and not at all acting like a child with a soiled diape-

"Are you f'ing serious? "
"You've got spyware monitoring us and your reaction to us enjoying the game the way we want to is... we're not freaky enough for you?"
"Maybe on a second or third playthrough I'll do some more wild stuff and play an evil midget serial killer with unusual body accessories, one which might merit your divine approval."
"Perhaps, instead of lamenting the lack of diversity in your customers' playstyle, you should lay off the brain-damaging substances"
"TLDR: F-off, Jess_Larian"

Oh yes, no outrage there. My bad.



P.S. If you read the EULA on the Store page, you would have noticed this part:

It was just trying to encourage people to try something different. You are more than welcome to play a human if you wish, but if you are merely picking human by default, maybe consider trying a different race.

By trying different characters and playstyles, that also makes it less likely to get burnt out by major updates that break save compatibility, and more likely to want to replay the start of the game again with the full release.

Has Any one been able to play multiplayer on Baldur's Gate? We both are on STEAM but one MAC one PC. It keeps saying we dont have the same version. Help if you know how to get this to work. Thanks!

Rather than take us to task for not using the options you provided, it might be more productive to learn what options your users prefer and then use that to guide your game's development. Spending tons of time to create something that appeals to 5% of your users seems dubious. Virtue signalling notwithstanding of course.

Personally I'm hoping you introduce more companions later on. Right now I won't have Astarion or Lae'zel in my party unless absolutely forced.

That criticism comes off as really arrogant and holier than thou. I'm glad you accurately titled your post as the death of hubris. I hope that issue of devs ripping on their players goes away quickly.

Maybe people make racial choices for gameplay reasons. You know... Like in a D&D game... So, if their desire is to play a human fighter because of stats instead of a halfling fighter that won't have the same advantages, let them. It's their game too!

Other people like to put themselves in the game, so if they don't have demon eyes, horns, and a tail on their human, let them make the choice instead of bitching at their choices. Let them make their human bald and fat it they want to. It's their character!

I happen to really like the character creator you made. I like the game a lot too, even with the bugs associated with paid open beta. I refuse to call it early access. That's just marketing.

I think Larian has done a pretty good job of making a true to D&D game. It's gotten a lot of support for that from fans. There's a reason WotC choose the makes of DOS to make this game. Please don't screw it up after such great successes.

*snicker*

My damn game is stuck at 92% "applying patches" for the last 2 hrs when there is no more to DL the "patch" was ONLY 523MB so WTF?

THe only issue here here you taking what was clearly a joke seriously. Stop.

The voice of reason.

Bug: Puzzle below the goblin city has moon images overlapping. Cannot tell current state of moon images.

Meh, my default PC is any race/class with immunity or high resistance to charm/sleep (one of the most annoying attacks), dark vision (I hate torches) and high perception (I hate missing things). Especially when I start to do solo runs. If that makes me boring, I'm cool with that.

Joe

Even in fantasy settings, people like to make caracters that resemble themselves. Most people want something akin to "period photos". I'd love to see the "Your Face" tech implemented. I don't think I've seen it in a mainstream game since Madden back in 2011. You put in 3 pictures of your face and it transposes a pretty darn good likeness onto a created player. Or you could use the Kinect to view your face from all angles, but they came out pretty much the same. Heh, my face on a Tiefling or Halfling would be mad cool.

I can't stand what a big deal a bunch of decent size Youtube channels took the statement and ran with it, essentially accusing Lariam of being racist against White Men. Kinda irked me, as they obviously meant it as "Wow, you could be an long faced pointy eared acrobat, a winged shortbow-weilding red skinned glowing eyed Gnoll masher or short bearded pickpocket, and you picked...you! C'mon folks, work with us _wink wink._ " I can't see them meaning any malicious intent, but this is current year, so we've got to be outraged by something, right? Good grief.

I will admit though, when I first saw the pic I thought of Henry from "kingdon Come: Deliverance". Not really surprising, as like I said, people like to play themselves doing fantastic things. Heck, I want that "Your Face" tech added. I don't think I'd put them on a default human Fighter or Cleric though. Barbarian or Wizard, _I guess,_ but it'd be way cooler on a halfling Ranger or Assassin/Arcane Trickster combo. Or Barbarian. Halfling barbarians are always fun. Especially when they dual class to Cleric, have a pet Goose named "Honk" and is often heard screaming "You killed my Goose" on the battlefield as they fly into a rage....What, you've never played one of those? The neighbors can get really frustrated when they're trying to sleep upstairs during your PnP session.