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apprentice
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apprentice
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5e isn't the problem. You're the problem. I don't mean you as a person, specifically. But just looking at what you're talking about here... You want Baldur's Gate 3 to be a follow up to Divinity Original Sin 2. Of course you're going to think the 5e ruleset is to blame. The game you want isn't Dungeons & Dragons. You want more Divinity Original Sin. If you're comparing it to DOS2 then you've already missed the point.
This strain of purity testing what it means to be a D&D game is not particularly convincing. For people who are not bought in to the 5e ruleset, the game feels like a regression from the fun and dynamic combat of D:OS2. The goal should be to make a good game first and a D&D game second. and the claim, that 5e rules would make everything boring is just as convicing, since the rules now aren't 5e rules. they are heavily changed. how can anyone be certain, that a 5e video game would be more or less exciting? That is actually a really good question, and I'm kind of waffling back and forth between the answer as I play more and more of the game. It feels like the combat encounters are designed from a DOS2 mentality: use surfaces to turn the tide in your favor, which is sort of a thing in 5e, but not to this extreme. I'm not advocating for a 1 to 1 port of the tabletop rules (how do you translate a spell like create water to a video game and capture all the unique applications in 5e?). The more I play, the more I realize the surface system DOES have a place in BG3, but it can't be handled the same way as in DOS2. As a DM, I cannot count the number of times a player wants to use an ability/skill/spell to interact with the environment in a way that forces me to make a quick judgement call. I think the surface system can fill that gap, but I don't think the answer is to overhaul numerous cantrips/abilities to make them create surfaces when they weren't designed to do so.
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After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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clanpot
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Ascorius
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Temperance
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mr_planescapist
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13/10/20 07:56 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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WarChiefZeke
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14/10/20 09:42 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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mahe4
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15/10/20 04:03 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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SeaOfKittens
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15/10/20 04:27 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Drake Duckson
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16/10/20 08:33 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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CrestOfArtorias
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16/10/20 09:04 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Drake Duckson
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16/10/20 09:12 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Sampsy
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15/10/20 04:55 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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pill0ws
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18/10/20 04:27 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Tuco
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18/10/20 04:53 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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biomag
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18/10/20 05:05 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Ghorunt
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20/10/20 09:58 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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coredumped
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20/10/20 11:02 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Maximuuus
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20/10/20 11:09 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Aurgelmir
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20/10/20 11:37 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Skin Overbone
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20/10/20 04:05 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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The Composer
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20/10/20 06:46 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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feedback_wizard
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15/02/21 01:13 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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schpas
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02/02/22 09:20 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Athkatla FC
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03/02/22 12:56 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Momoka
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18/10/23 02:40 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Zentu
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18/10/23 12:06 PM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Milkfred
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18/10/23 10:39 AM
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Re: After 25 Hours, The Problem with BG3 is 5e
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Halycon Styxland
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18/10/23 01:10 PM
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