Originally Posted by Demoulius

Any DM who allows this shifty behaviour is also doing a disservice to his players. Its a unrealistic game-ified version of DnD and turns it more into ROLLplay then ROLEplay. Mind you thats just my opinion on it. If your group does it like that and has fun then you do you.

If there was a hypothetical version of D&D between 3.5 and 5th Edition, would it play like that? laugh

I mean, something like that can't be the reason why Pathfinder exists, right?