Originally Posted by mr_planescapist
Many people find that Pathfinder:kingmaker to be the closest thing to table top D&D like gameplay in a video game, and love it for that.
I find the game very slow, mathematical, drowned with stats, difficult and definetly not fun. Perfectionist and simulation/numbers freaks llove these kind of games.
I really hope BG3 does not become that. Anything closer to DOS2 is great in my book. Larian almost has it...the game needs that extra spicy fun bit that pulls away from the all mighty D&D set in stone commandments.
Anything just slightly differing from 5e rules and you will have all these perfectionist just complaining to no end.


Except that Pathfinder was basically designed to be a massive clutter of rules and math, D&D 5e is much more streamlined. That's not to say that it doesn't contain some rules and math, but certainly not to that level, and considering the math is already done for you by the computer in BG3 and the rules aren't something you'll be looking up constantly but something that the game should explain to you when you hover over the icon for whatever it is you plan to do, then even if it was just pure 5E with nothing else it would be more streamlined than Pathfinder.

I'm a huge D&D 5E fan, and I also loved DOS2, but they put too much Divinity into this game and not enough 5E, especially for a game called "Baldur's Gate 3" and marketed as sticking to the 5E ruleset, because it really doesn't. My biggest complaints are mainly just that they messed with the cantrips and made them OP, they messed with some of the enemies (such as the Gnolls, who I have a post ranting a bit about) and made them OP, and that you can take a nice safe long rest anywhere at anytime so long as you're not in combat (which is pretty OP). Basically, I'm just annoyed that everything Larian changed has been made OP. The 5E rules are nice and balanced for the most part, and for whatever reason Larian decided to mess that balance up, and it's come out as a whole lot of OP things that make the game more clunky and frustrating than fluid and fun.